10-20-2021, 11:55 PM
(10-20-2021, 09:58 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(10-20-2021, 09:39 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(10-20-2021, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:(10-17-2021, 10:25 AM)taramarie Wrote: I have nothing to say to people who are ok with removal of freedoms. I should be allowed to go to a grocery store and go back to my country of origin vaccine or not. You guys are no better than those who allowed blacks to have less freedoms.
Actually no, you shouldn't be allowed to do as you please, if you are a threat to others. I suspect you will be considered a threat in NZ, because the vaccination rate there is still low and you are an unknown quantity arriving from the outside. They als have rights, and the rights on many outweigh the rights of the few.
Beleive me, we have far too many in the US making similar arguments, getting others sick and occassionally leading to thier deaths. I have no sympathy with the argument you're making.
Well said.
I have been mocking loud-mouth fools like the late Bob Enyart (a real creep -- homophobe, religious bigot, and anti-abortion crusader) who militantly opposed masks and ended up dead of COVID-19. Stupidity is not and never has been a survival value except in a place like Afghanistan, North Korea, or Syria today, where rational thought can get one killed.
Colin Powell reminds us: anyone with a weakened immune system is at grave risk from COVID-19 even from an exposure of the mildest sort. To be sure, with the myeloma and Parkinsonism that he had, one or the other would have killed him anyway. Someone failed to wear a mask. I wouldn't wish myeloma (I knew someone who died of it and it wasn't pretty), Parkinson's (it killed my mother), or COVID-19 on anyone.
I keep a mask handy.
Colin Powell was vaccinated but that didn't stop whatever COVID variant from killing him. Plus, he may/could have gotten it from a fellow vaccinated as well.
COVID-19 could bounce off something, including the clothing of someone fully vaccinated. It could bounce off my mask if I am wearing one. Remember that he had two conditions, one of which would have killed him if the other didn't had it not been for COVID-19.
So far as I know, my immune system is fine, and with two inoculations (I am close to the time for getting a booster), a SARS-2 virus is likely to end up dead if it gets into my body. I wash my hands frequently enough... I count to thirty to get twenty seconds. Soap rips the protective membrane of the virus, and water and soap send the shredded virus to its doom in the plumbing system or the septic tank.
Inoculation does not kill the virus magically, but it allows a sturdy immune system to kill the virus before it can reproduce. Colin Powell needed much more than an inoculation to keep him from dying of COVID-19 -- like not having Parkinson's or myeloma.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.