The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(10-20-2021, 10:23 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-20-2021, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(10-17-2021, 10:25 AM)taramarie Wrote: I have nothing to say to people who are ok with removal of freedoms. I should be allowed to go to a grocery store and go back to my country of origin vaccine or not. You guys are no better than those who allowed blacks to have less freedoms.

Actually no, you shouldn't be allowed to do as you please, if you are a threat to others.  I suspect you will be considered a threat in NZ, because the vaccination rate there is still low and you are an unknown quantity arriving from the outside.  They als have rights, and the rights on many outweigh the rights of the few.

Beleive me, we have far too many in the US making similar arguments, getting others sick and occassionally leading to thier deaths. I have no sympathy with the argument you're making.

You shouldn't be allowed to continue to do as you please either. So, what's it going to take to teach you the importance of everything else these days? A food shortage? A medicine shortage? A medical personal shortage? Do you have much of a life outside of here these days? The living/COVID survivors outnumber the COVID dead by a huge amount like 100,000,000 t0 750,000 so far. So, how much sympathy exists for selfish old people like you and the others? I have no sympathy or obligation to any of you at this point. Keep this mind as time goes on and the crisis's begin to add up and start taking heavier tolls on everyone else.

Dude, COVID-19 kills about 1.5% of those that contract it -- directly, that is. Ask yourself: would you take a drive if you had a 1.5% chance of dying while on that trip? Death from rattlesnake bite applies at a similar rate to people bitten. Would you dodge a rattler?

COVID-19 is connected also to some unwelcome consequences:

1. diabetes -- diabetes is a medical catastrophe because it causes other destruction of one's health and typically shortens life.
2. organ damage -- lungs, kidneys, liver. I don't smoke and I drink little. (Supposedly a little alcohol is good for reducing the risk of stroke, so a little alcohol on occasion isn't all bad).
3. cognitive loss -- reduction in intelligence, which is a deterioration of the quality of life.
4. sexual dysfunction -- if the other three don't get you, then maybe this one will.

Getting COVID-19 might not kill you outright, but it can make your life miserable.

My paternal grandmother died of complications of diabetes. I saw it happen, and it was degrading. I've seen someone die of cirrhosis, and my father told me that while his brother-in-law was dying in a teaching hospital, the instructor told his students that one of the worst cirrhotic livers that he had ever seen was a consequence of being an alcoholic for fifty years. The schmuck started drinking as a teenager and didn't quit drinking until it was too late.

There's no warning about cancer or birth defects, but I would not be surprised.