01-10-2022, 08:38 PM
(01-10-2022, 05:30 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-08-2022, 01:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: There are many unvaccinated people getting covid today. They are mostly the ones in the hospital, including many more children not vaccinated yet or not eligible to be vaccinated yet. Many of them are now saying they wish they had been vaccinated. Some of them die. They are proving you wrong by dying in the process. You keep getting covid Classic Xer, and you may very well die from it. Well, one less right-wing idiot around.
The fate of antivaxxers:
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
Hey, Classic Xer, please get vaccinated! Without you, who would we argue with around here?
I bet there are more vaccinated people getting/spreading COVID than unvaccinated these days . I know more vaccinated who have gotten it than unvaccinated right now. I haven't got Omicron yet or Delta again despite being directly exposed to both variants by several infected vaccinated people over the last three months. So, how does it feel to be more or less unvaccinated these days?
You lose the bet.
As COVID-19 runs out of unvaccinated people to sicken and kill, it will likely turn into something more contagious, less calamitous, and less preventable. That is the pattern for viruses -- even HIV. With HIV, people changed their behavior to become less vulnerable to it. HIV/AIDS was largely associated with free-for-all homosexuals who couldn't stop having unprotected sex... and HIV/AIDS killed them off. Then in America the primary cause of the spread of HIV/AIDS was needle-sharing by IV drug users. IV drug users who shared needles died off, but IV drug use has other hazards such as overdoses and shock from withdrawal.
At some point, SARS-2 (the name of the virus) will morph into something much less insidious after killing off the people who act stupidly in its presence. To be sure, COVID-19 is not the death sentence that HIV/AIDS was around 1980... but something that has a one-in-66 chance of killing one is something to avoid with all due precautions. I don't provoke rattlesnakes or large predators (basically any predator the size of a Maine Coon Cat); I don't drive drunk: I silence my cell phone on the road; I don't use or deal street drugs; I don't do violent crime or break into houses (one result of which might be an encounter with a creature that suddenly becomes dangerously unpredictable. You know which one). Even with the vaccines that we have one can get an infection... but one's immune system is in far-better shape for meeting it, and you ave little chance of death or debility from it.
At some point, more vaccinated people will get a breakthrough case than will unvaccinated people. The consequences for getting COVID-19 if not vaccinated include:
1. death by suffocation
2. diabetes
3. organ damage
4. cognitive loss
5. long-term disability
6. stillbirths
7. sexual dysfunction
8. harm to pets
Which of those is worth not getting an inoculation? Cancer and birth defects are not yet provable results, but I can imagine those as long-term effects.
.... There's a story behind probability: the study originates in the study of table games. Games of pure chance and not strategy, like coin-flipping, roulette, and craps, are sure winners for the House. A player usually gets wiped out slowly while feeling himself on the verge of winning. Craps is a loser's game, but some find it entertaining. It's the game in Guys and Dolls, and the players in the "oldest established permanent floating crap game in New York" that Nathan Detroit runs has colorful characters who generally aren't so bright. The game is easy to understand. Slot machines and lotteries? The operators depend on convincing people that their losses are trivial and that the payouts are magnificent while overstating the odds of the big jackpot. Some senior citizens going to the casino with $50 recognize that the $50 will do them little good (actually, one can still buy plenty of groceries with $50, and it is a couple tanks of gas) but that thousands of dollars will solve their problems.
There are good bets and bad bets. Unless one is as incompetent a businessman as Donald Trump or has gangsters skimming the profits, it's hard to lose as a casino operator. Even if the games are close to even (if someone keeps playing long enough, the casino will make the money), a casino has other "profit centers" such as built-in bars, restaurants, and shops -- and of course a hotel. Children can't gamble, but they can be entertained with video games and pinball machines that devour funds about as quickly as slot machines. People are spending money at casinos (basically paying for some excitement) instead of shopping, I suppose, which is also a predictable drain on assets.
I won't go into the details, but all in all there are good bets and bad bets. The most attractive ones for some are those that have a small pay-in and potentially a very high pay-out, like lottery tickets. For some, the most attractive are those that look as if one is winning even if one is losing. The worst imaginable bet is something with a high risk of losing big and and a minuscule reward. Casinos have good cause to avoid offering that as such results in disgruntled one-time customers. Most people are good for at most one rip-off as a customer.
Casino betting, sports betting, and lotteries are on the whole losing propositions for customers. Not getting vaccinated is the worst sort of bet possible, one in which one puts one's life on the line for practically nothing. I'd rather make a bet on the Detroit Lions winning a game at even odds (they won three games, tied one, and lost thirteen, and they have a schlemiel heritage as an organization) than take a pointless risk of death or other catastrophes with a failure to get inoculated.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.