01-22-2022, 01:55 PM
(01-10-2022, 06:26 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-09-2022, 01:23 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: ...as if you ever go by statistical evidence or science at any point, Clasic X'er. Many of the differences on any social science between those who disagree on the most divisive issues disagree on moral values. You seem to believe in such a principle as "He who owns the gold makes the rules" and that people unlike you do not merit your trust. I am convinced that most of the ethical values that make life tolerable are well established, and deviations that we have accepted have been accepted only upon careful reflection that weighs consequences of the alternatives. The rightful relationship between asset-owners and people in need due to their humanity has yet to be fully solidified. A few centuries ago such was settled in this way: that the poor have responsibilities to the rich (the aristocrats who owned everything and had the power of life and death over everyone) and the aristocrats have none to the peons who are 100% expendable. When such was no longer enforceable only the aristocrats and their intellectual flunkies believed that -- if they were so inclined. Then came the French Revolution that shook the aristocratic ethos at its core, and finally the chaos of the Russian Revolution and the Second World War that led to the the annihilation of the aristocracy as a class. Some people thought that people could be literal possessions of others -- before the American Civil War made such an obvious absurdity.What do you mean? I've been going by statistics, the opinions of real doctors, real scientists, real experts and so forth who have been working on COVID, treating COVID, learning about COVID since the beginning and my own personal knowledge/experience related to COVID the entire time. You guys have been going by whatever is being fed to you by those on the Left, whatever looks good, sounds or whatever viewed as beneficial agenda wise, whatever lowers fears or concerns relating to dying from it or whatever you think is beneficial to you or your life and so forth. PB, you are a partisan hack Left Wing Democrat and that's about all you are and will ever be at this point. BTW, you guys have done nothing to earn my/our trust the entire time you've been posting. I mean be honest, look/listen to all the crap you've been going along with or not questioning and supporting for your own benefit. You're kind of lucky that the entire American Right has been relatively patient and largely non violent so far.
The Left is fact-based; the Right-wing is based on conspiracy theory and right-wing ideologies.
We don't need your trust.
The only benefit you seek Classic Xer from politics is to defend trickle-down neoliberalism, keep your taxes low and keep your guns. We on the Left are not interested in those things. I don't care if you lose your guns or have to pay higher taxes.
The American Right is losing its patience already. It has attacked the capitol and state capitols and threatened election workers with violence. It is shutting down democracy.