The Partisan Divide on Issues

[pbrower2a]

(02-04-2022, 05:03 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(02-02-2022, 09:55 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(02-02-2022, 01:11 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 10:30 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 01:13 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Bluer as in more darker in terms of peoples skin tone or bluer as in more Progressive minded and big government oriented/related like Washington DC? In Minnesota, the rural Democrats are dying off and the rural communities that were controlled by them for several decades are turning into ghost towns. As a result, the more economic minded and more American minded Republicans and their voters are taking over and the economy is becoming more economically diverse. So, are you familiar with what's going on between Buckhead and Atlanta these days? Buckhead has formally declared its independence and is in the process of breaking free from from Atlanta. I think it's a good gauge what's to come and what to expect as time goes on.

Rural areas have always been more conservative in every meaning of the word -- even during the labor movement period of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.  Dogma tends to set-in in more insular communities.  They may get infuriated, but they aren't empowered, unless they decide to bring out the guns.  Then it's open rebellion.  Nothing good comes from that.

The young don't believe it can happen, not even the rural young.  If it does, then the armies are aligned and battlelines drawn.  Youth WILL show up out of pure self-interest.

Dude, the armies are already aligned and the battle lines have already been drawn and the Blue youth that show up out of pure self interest are going to find Themselves being turned against each other and slaughtered. The Blue community seems pretty insular and dogmatic these days don't you think. I suppose that you don't think or view it that way since it's very obvious to everyone else that you're one of Them. Sorry dude, I wish I was a better writer than a businessman. It's the only thing that's  keeping you in the game at this point.

In your scenario, the US Armed Services would divide between your concept of a Real America and the more diverse America. The Armed Services recruit heavily from poor people with the offering of steady work, clear direction, and career training. It is too well-disciplined to splinter. In short the Army is not on any side yet, and it will not end up on any one side unless to suppress sedition -- especially if that manifests itself in 'ethnic cleansing' or religious persecutions.  

You may expect private militias responsible to none but their leaders to establish marauding bands; the Army knows how to deal with such bands. Those bands will be put down swiftly and surely. If those marauding bands leave behind large numbers of dead, then images of such will be powerful tools for discrediting them.

Are you more diverse than me? You may have read a lot more books but I have interacted/communicated/socialized with a helluva lot more people than you and the other three combined.

One reads books so that one gets more diversity of thought -- at least if the books are any good. For a huge number of interactions with people one could be an usher at a movie theater or a fast-food counter-person, but those interactions are highly stereotyped. I like to believe that if I start a conversation I make life a little more interesting for at least a minute or more for someone enduring a boring, frustrating life. 

I've been a substitute school teacher, so ask me about meeting diversity.   

Quote:Eric preaches the blue gospel to the blue flock (the blue indoctrinated) David does it too but he's not as committed as Eric. You are a blue demagogue who is in using and spreading propaganda. Bob is too. I don't see much diversity of thought anywhere I look (blue news network) these days. So, did you know that Whoopi was (racist and classist rant deleted, and soon to be reported. No, I am not going to let you get away with  a vile term for Southern white people, either, as it is just as nasty as the other two). It's all business nothing personal.

Any religious, racial, or ethnic slur is a display of personal vileness. People take them personally because they demean people.

Quote:The US Army divided the last time. What makes you think/ feel it won't happen again this time?

161 years ago, when the United States was a weak confederation that the slave-owning interests had recently sought to centralize in the enforcement of slavery. That is over -- way over. More relevant is Spain in the 1930's, where parts of the country were as sophisticated intellectually and culturally (it had Gaudi, Lorca, Picasso, and Miro!) and parts in which people still had medieval minds. That is unstable, and that is very much over in Spain. In America, some people seem to be regressing into backwardness of thought with amazing rapidity. That is much of the "red/blue" divide, and it is consummately dangerous. The only good thing is that time is running out for that as the younger adults of our time seem to be taking on 1T characteristics. That can save us; perhaps it must.  
 

Quote:I know that this is hard for you to swallow but you and the others don't represent America, the American Constitution or core American values and principles . Like I said, you should start thinking about moving to one of the so-called Democratic States before the American States and the American regions declare they're independence and formally recognize the America (US) Constitution as the Law of the Land and swear an oath to keep it and defend it. It's coming dude and you and the others are on the wrong side once again.

Everybody has his opinion about what the Constitution means, at the least on what matters most. By the way -- I'm not going to pretend that Massachusetts is more "American" than Mississippi or vice-versa. Considering what you said about black people and poor whites in the same vile sentence, you might want to stay out of Mississippi, which has the largest percentage of blacks of all states and in which most white people are poor. 

When poor blacks and poor whites recognize that they have the same piggish enemy -- those people who see their own Power, Indulgence, and Gain as the only legitimate objective of life irrespective of the human cost, it is curtains for the neoliberal ideas that you admire.