02-06-2022, 09:54 AM
(02-06-2022, 09:31 AM)David Horn Wrote:Set the tone for discussion of term limits still going on today. It wasn’t until 1951 that it was mandated for the Presidency. Still we had only one who broke that tradition and maybe two others who attempted a third run. Lincoln had he lived was also planning to retire from public life following his second term.(02-05-2022, 03:54 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I thought earlier lists were more accurate. This one seems to lean toward excusing some very bad activities among these some of these presidents, and seems to submit to conservative opinions. Certainly Ike and Reagan are very much over-rated on this list.
To me, the worst is a toss up between GW Bush and Donald Trump. Bush cost 400,000 people their lives for no reason. LBJ is over-rated, having cost millions of lives including about 57,000 American lives for no reason. Although Buchanan was a very poor leader who favored the South in some shady ways, I don't see how he can be blamed for the division in the country that seemed bent on civil war no matter what he did. The best was FDR, despite some bad decisions. Washington didn't do that much, and Lincoln did, although in some tyrannical ways, but he had trouble finding the right general in the right place.
I have to fault your view of Washington. His singular and greatest act was stepping aside after 8 years and retiring from the public square. That was, to say the least, an unheard-of event in that or any prior time. The humility and bravery it took to walk away set the standard for the nation.