What's your generation and how would you change your government?

[galaxy]

(02-19-2022, 09:14 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(02-18-2022, 08:57 PM)galaxy Wrote:

(02-17-2022, 08:34 PM)JasonBlack Wrote:

(02-17-2022, 03:50 PM)galaxy Wrote: Me: Civic/Adaptive borderline, more Civic than Adaptive. Born in January 2001, currently aged 21, student, from Missouri.

last year for Civic births is 2004, you're in firmly my squad bro (1991 Millennial here. guess that makes me middle wave and you late wave)

The divide is somewhere in the middle of 2002, depending on location and individual factors, with a hard limit at November 3, 2002 being the last day a Millennial could be born.

That's a tad deterministic, don't you think?  History is not determinant like physics or chemistry.  There is no magic formula that makes it all clear.  We can agree that the 2002-4 timeframe marks the end of the Millennial generation (in most places -- there are bound to be exceptions) but driving a stake in the ground and declaring a distinct difference on each side can't make sense.  The idea of cusps has been well established in the S&H framework; members of the ~2001-5 cohorts will be cuspy by definition.  

History never changes that fast unless something of a catastrophic nature occurs.  Nothing like that happened anytime in the near vicinity except 9/11, and no one claims that as definitive anymore.

Perhaps I've been a little too deterministic, but I really do feel very strongly that voting (or at least being old enough to vote) in the 2020 election is an important marker of Millennialism (as well as graduating high school in the Class of 2020 or earlier).

Also, when I referred to location, I was referring to lockdowns. Someone born in 2002 who lived in Montana in spring 2020 (where schools actually reopened in-person for a few weeks in May, one of the only places where that was possible) will probably be more Millennial than someone born in 2002 living in New York City in spring 2020. It has to do with reaching certain societally-determined (but admittedly vaguely defined) "markers of entry into adulthood" before the Crisis really gets serious.

We see the GI generation end the same way - most of those born after 1925 were not "old enough to be of consequence" (for lack of a better phrase) before the war ended.


The cusp cohorts, by the way, are defined by memory of the events of 2001 and memory of the events of 2008 respectively. So roughly 1998 to 2004. Though I personally still prefer a tripartite division of the Millennial generation (roughly 1982-1988, 1988-1996, 1996-2002).