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Joe Biden: polls of approval and favorability
(03-09-2022, 06:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Do you know what Biden arm twisted the leader of Ukraine to do for him and the corrupt company that his son was working for at the time? The border is still an important issue that Biden caused that's not being addressed that the Blue media has largely ignored the entire time. I mean, thousands of illegals living under a bridge caught their attention one time and forced Biden to do something about that eye sore that was simply to troublesome to ignore.

That's not what happened.


Quote:Yes, the Ukrainian war has pretty much taken over the news cycle and over shadowed all domestic issues. We see little coverage of the current border crisis, the COVID crisis, the current inflation crisis, the current supply chain crisis and the on going issue of shortages, the Jan 6th thingy that matters much more to you guys, the current opioid crisis (I'm sure you guys hardly hear about that at all) that's killing/destroying more Americans now than it ever has in the past and the current state of the union which is not good by any stretch of the of the imagination. Like I said, the Liberals are currently making a very strong case for getting rid of all of them by any means possible.

We have an evident struggle between Good and Evil, which is what one expects during the latter phase of a Crisis when such had not yet happened. That "January 6 thingy" was an attempt to negate a free and fair election that the incumbent lost. Such, had it succeeded, might have transformed America into a dictatorship. Even with differences of ideology I first saw a parallel with the Bolsheviks storming the Winter Palace in Petrograd in 1917 and toppling a lawfully-elected Constituent Assembly after a free and fair election that Lenin's Bolsheviks lost. Lenin imposed a 'temporary' dictatorship that outlasted  any adults who lived through the October Revolution and festered into the inhuman tyranny of Josef Stalin. I prefer elections to revolutions and coups. Anyone who wishes to enshrine one set of political winners indefinitely is a fool.

Quote:A far as the Democrats and what they have to offer in exchange for votes, the Democrats mainly offer empty promises like you said and continuation of funding for social programs they've passed in the past and continuation of protections and obligations related to them associated with the past. Plus, the Democrats tend to bait and switch too. In other words, the Democrats will run on the economy and corruption like it did leading up to the crash and spend a few hundred billion of a trillion dollar spending bill that helps some union construction workers and some manufactures and some construction company workers and their owners which doesn't help hardly anyone else and spend several hundred bullion more shoring up government related jobs mainly related to them and their constituency and then pass a healthcare that most Americans didn't vote for or support at the time. The way I see it, Obama had the opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents the country ever had but he chose the pot of gold that he knew was waiting for him at the end instead.  

Well, democracy depends upon politicians seeking to convince a mass of voters that the politicians can improve the lives of voters, or at least preserve what voters already have, with promises that could be tax cuts or a more activist government. Nobody makes overt promises of mass poverty or economic ruin of course, every eighty years or so in the latter days of a 3T we get a speculative boom that offers plenty of easy money in an economic bubble that bursts as in 1857, 1929, or 2008 and in the ensuing Crisis we are obliged to seek and find some radically-different solution to an economic calamity.

High rents indicate a housing shortage that has no solution exclusively in building housing only for a few people flush with cash -- why not also some modestly-priced housing that such people as those construction workers building such McMansions can afford? I remember when factory workers could buy little bungalows in small towns based upon the assumption that they would remain factory workers and not gamble on learning to be accountants or engineers. Except for LGBT rights, vast improvements in inter-ethnic relations,some medical improvements and the replacement of 'Blood Alley' roads with superhighways, life for young adults today is generally worse than it was in the 1950's. LGBT rights, improvements in race relations, and the building of better roads did not result from the introduction of any new technologies. The medical miracles are consequences of scientific progress that would have happened anyway. Oh... technological miracles such as personal computers and satellite communications? I see e-mail as a telegram; I see most of what is on the Internet as either what one did by watching television, listening to radio, sending a letter, or reading from a dead-tree edition of some literary work. 200 channels of television? Maybe you can watch two channels at once (in your case the Timberwolves and the Wild, or perhaps FoX News and some pornographic movie that together rot your intellect and conscience... you cannot watch the other 198 and little of it appeals to you.

I would sacrifice much of the high technology that we now have to find a more just world in which people can improve their lives through the community with 'little' acts of life-affirming behavior instead of having to move off to where the jobs are and the action is -- and rents are in the stratosphere. Part of the problem is that we got addicted to K-Mart convincing us that we were astute shoppers praiseworthy for not paying full retail at some mom-and-pop retailer before Wal*Mart came in to offer even lower prices than K-Mart.  Part of it was that we found the over-priced shopping mall a good place for getting stuff more attuned to our personalities when we could no longer order it through a mom-and-pop store and K-Mart and now Wal*Mart make such impossible.

OK, plenty of people would chafe doing monotonous work in a factory. Fine. For such people college education that allows people to make subtle discretion at complex tasks possible for solid pay. College education used to be affordable, but the Master Class has chosen to make it fiendishly expensive to the point that joining a rat race with six-figure debt to be paid off before one can eat because debt is supreme and people are expendable.That's how sharecropping worked. Higher technology to enforce peonage is no boon. With all the advances in productive technology and infrastructure we should be doing better in personal lives -- even in greater and more glorious expressions of individual desires. This isn't for everyone

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but it is certainly right for me. I bought it, and I may be the only one who cares about this in my milieu.

Quote:(snide remark toward another poster) if one doesn't know for sure, one probes the way I probed you to find out. So, were the Joe Six Packs rural Democratic voters or rural Republican like my parents and grand parents? The primary distinctions between the two was whether one was union or non union and whether one lived in town or lived outside of town. You see, my parents and grand parents lived near a rusty old town too. My grand parents owned a home and a chunk of land mainly pasture for beef cattle and a barn for milk cattle and bunch of chicken coops and a local bar where the Six Pack's in the area would congregate after work. Hell, I'm a bit of a Joe Six Pack myself. I was more of a Joe Six Pack during my younger days. Joe Six Pack's are more practical people so I can see why you didn't get along with them and view them as being below you even though most of them are equal to you in most aspects related to life.


"Joe Sixpack" is a plebeian, philistinical character created by the late columnist Art Hoppe (1925-2000) of the San Francisco Chronicle. Joe Six-Pack was a marginally-educated fellow who could easily be mocked by  the "rootless cosmopolitan" types common in the San Francisco Bay Area back in the 1970's. Somewhat-similar characters in TV sitcoms of the past include "Ralph Kramden", "Fred Flintstone", "Archie Bunker", and "Al Bundy". Such characters are ignorant and proud of it... and male-chauvinist pigs. They are the sorts who buy and drink mass-market beer. They are not so much practical as they are unimaginative. "Joe Six-pack" is an insult, and Hoppe's readers could read his columns and feel good that they are not that awful.

(David Horn) really should tamper down the elitist attitude that you display to me (us)  because it opens the door to facing/dealing with more serious and more experienced  challengers like me. The Democratic oriented  candidate recently got his butt kicked by a more serious and more experienced challenger like me for governor of your state. In short, what you seen of me back in the day is becoming the norm on the Republican side. You're seeing more capable challengers like Us. How many country club Republicans aka Poppa Bush Kin's or Evangelical oriented Republicans aka Junior Bush Kin's do you see representing the Republican side today? There's some country club/ establishment types left  but there's not enough to hold Us back. To be honest, I don't know which scenario would be worse, an all out civil war or a largely unopposed  national split aka natural split. You could go either way, you could sell your home and move to a Democratic region or stay put and live out your life as an odd ball that no one bothers to listen to because most know it's BS or know it won't work so to speak. My old brother lives in rural Tennessee. He says the stuff about the locals as you say here. The only difference, he also added  that they're  not stupid people. In other words, he respects them and doesn't have a problem with them as far as people go.[/quote]

The "country club Republicans" may have lost control of the GOP and will not regain control of it until the Trump-era and Bible-thumping Republicans get wiped out in political failure.  The Trump cultists and the Bible-thumpers skew old, so such offers little hope for big wins by the GOP. Any business that relies on an elderly clientele whose patronage does not depend upon their age. OK, nursing homes built in the 1960's to largely accommodate people born in the 1880's and 1890's now have mostly inmates born in the 1930's and 1940's, so they can do well. Back in the 1980's the traditional anchor department store of a shopping mall had a typical customer aged 59. Lacking youth appeal, such places withered. Demographics are reality in American commerce, culture, and politics.

People in rural Tennessee may largely get their music from Nashville, but they get the rest of their entertainment from places other than Tennessee from city slickers who could no more live there than a polar bear could live in the Amazon rainforest.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: Joe Biden: polls of approval and favorability - by pbrower2a - 03-10-2022, 01:08 AM

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