03-10-2022, 01:30 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-10-2022, 01:38 AM by Eric the Green.)
(03-09-2022, 11:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-09-2022, 12:13 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:How can you be liberal if you're a partisan Democrat? That makes no sense. As far as what the man had say about neoliberalism, I agree with most of what he had to say and if you were to have payed more attention to the beginning of his lecture and compare it to what I said about Reagan not being responsible for the decisions and the agreements made by the Presidents who followed him and the problems mainly related to them and the problems we are facing as a nation today. You're going to disagree but if you really listened to him, you're part of the problem not the solution. If you listened to his solution and the words he used to describe those who represent the solution and the kind of country that's needed as a solution. It's Us. You say you're not a neoliberal yet you voted for two of them because you're a partisan Democrat. I guess that makes you either a hypocrite or a moron.(03-08-2022, 11:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-08-2022, 04:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:You're not liberal. You're to partisan to be liberal. As matter of fact, none of you are as liberal as me on the issues that matter most to you. I mean, none of you would even consider increasing domestic oil production or building more nuclear power plants these days. I'm not a neoliberal. If I was a neoliberal, I would have voted for Clinton and Biden instead of Trump like the neoliberal minded GOP's did back in 2016 & 2020. Global trading matters to me but it doesn't matter more to me than the country. Trump was a direct threat to the neoliberal establishments and he still is today. Reagan didn't have anything to do with what the Presidents that followed him did or the trade agreements they made while they were in office.(03-08-2022, 04:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You're not liberal either. There are few liberals left on the Democratic side now that the Left controls most of the party Like I said, you're a Left Wing Reactionary which is pretty obvious. You're not Stalin or a Bolshevik but you're a Left Wing Reactionary who is a lot like them. You're probably closer to Hitler and the Nazi's based on what I've seen of you and read of your posts so far. Well, guess what, whichever one you are doesn't matter to Americans because Americans will unite and kill/destroy either one of them. You'll see it eventually, you don't seem to be learning anything as we've been exchanging views, seeing results and moving along towards the 4T over the years.
I am a liberal. I am not a neoliberal like you. Despite the resemblance of terms, there's a vast difference between them. THere is no such thing as a left-wing reactionary. The terms are contradictory. I am not a lot like Stalin or Bolsheviks, and you are the one who is close to Hitler, because you are a racist and you support oligarchs and giving them tax breaks and subsidies, and you believe in free access to guns as Hitler did. You don't seem to be learning anything, that's true. You are a reactionary.
Americans will indeed oppose Nazis, and Bolsheviks too should they ever arise here. Right now, there are no Bolsheviks in the USA, but there are Nazis, and that may include you. Many Americans are allied in supporting resistance to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. There is still a division among Americans. Some Republicans are moving away from the racist nationalism and the support for big lies and the Trump coup that you laud and agree with. There remains however the addiction by Republicans like you to neoliberalism at a time when we need to raise taxes, especially on the wealthy, and provide social spending to help workers and the poor directly rather than giving breaks to "job creaters" and hoping benefits will trickle down from the greedy to the needy. And we will likely need to raise taxes for more support for NATO now.
I am very glad Biden banned Russian oil in the USA. I asked for this for several days in my comments to the white house. I hope it can be extended to the Europeans soon. I see that they will embark on a program of faster transition to renewable energy. More oil and gas sent to them by others could be a temporary measure.
To be liberal today is to be a partisan Democrat. That's because the alternative is so reactionary, as you are. You don't understand neoliberalism. You choose not to. The champion of neoliberalism was Reagan. Reagan had everything to do with all the presidents of the next 40 years and the entire Republican Party. You deliberately choose not to understand that. You could if you chose to.
That's what a liberal is today, a Democrat. Greens have gone off the deep end to some extent; independents are too easily swayed by who knows what (but usually by the right), and the conservative right is now almost entirely right wing crazies. Because I really listen to him, I know that Reagan instituted neoliberalism and the presidents who followed him more or less followed him. If you know about neoliberalism you know that it came to power in 1980, with Reagan and Thatcher.
I had a hunch you might agree with some of the things he said. Like most people who vote Republican, you don't really know what you are voting for.