Neither of the current major party candidates is the "Grey Champion".

[Eric the Green]

(08-31-2016, 06:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(08-28-2016, 03:19 PM)Mikebert Wrote:

(08-27-2016, 06:26 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I did predict long ago here, I think before she was even through being First Lady, that Hillary would be the gray champion. Well, I dunno. She'll get the support, but she'll have to earn the enthusiasm of the Millennials. She may only be in for one term, is my prediction, even though the Democrats will probably win again in 2020. I'm not predicting that the next Democratic nominee will be Kaine either. Hillary may live out another "reversal." Whereas Obama came in on a wave of millennials' enthusiasm, and lost a good deal of it, Hillary may well go out on one that she has created.

If so this would be at the old site?  Do you think you could find it?

You mean my prediction that Hillary would be grey champion? I don't know if I could find it. I looked for a while under the thread about who is the next Lincoln or FDR, so I'll look more later. I had forgotten this link.

OK, here's a post at the end of "#s 166-180" on the "Who is the next FDR/Lincoln thread", politics and economics forum:

Posted by: E. Alan Meece 
Date posted: Thu Jul 1 20:11:17 EDT 1999 
Subject: Hilary? 
Message:
Who is the next Grey Champion? 
What about Hilary Rodham Clinton?
Now that she's entering politics for real, this is no longer idle speculation. Though her record is spotty up till now, after she's had some time in the Senate and run a few campaigns, her experience will have further smoothed over her rough edges. And she has the moral conviction, strength, charisma and knowledge to be a leader.
And this is a time when people are looking for a new kind of leader. A woman may fill the bill for many. Don't forget that whoever the champion(s) is/are, they probably won't appear in 2005. The Crisis will have developed for a while before the champion(s) appear(s).
"I'm not sure the 1960s legacies we live with today are positive, except those brought about by the Silent." said Michael.
Well, I think the Boomers helped with all of those; including the fact that a woman candidate is now a real possibility. Boomers participated in all the liberation movements and made them what they were, although they were not the original leaders of those movements. The 1960s legacies are not all positive, but part of the legacy is. I wouldn't want to go back to the days when we could not express who we are and be informal with each other, and when no-one in this country had any inkling of spirituality. When the only architecture around was small or large boxes made of glass and ticky-tacky. And when no-one had an inkling of the environmental costs of our industrial lifestyle, and when consumers had no rights. 
Eric Meece