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Does this 4T seem a little 2T-ish to anyone else?
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(03-28-2022, 10:42 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(03-28-2022, 11:43 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(03-26-2022, 06:37 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(03-26-2022, 01:27 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The JFK and 9-11 theories, originally posed by the left and liberals like me, and also alleged to be part of these MIC lies, eventually led to wholesale distrust of government that, along with all the other problems and lies, have made it now impossible to function, and many people automatically assume some nefarious cabal is behind every unsavory event or trend. linus mentioned some of these. And the 2T and 3T new age and post-modernist trends also cast a lot of doubt on materialist science, and again that includes me, and its doubt is often well-deserved; but now we need some correction in the other direction, including more respect for objective truth. It is certainly at-least superior to mere speculation and unverified fantasy and "connecting the dots" to blame some imaginary cabal. And now the right-wing has taken over the conspiracy field, and it's now dangerous to our health (covid and anti-vax conspiracy theories), our democracy (Trump's rigged election and attempted coup and voter suppression) and our very climate (false charges that climate change science is a hoax to raise taxes).

It's hard to be self-objective, and I'm in the same class to be honest about it.  The problem de jure is the depth of the opposing forces.  It's one thing for them to blather on with nonsense claims and quite another to be in a position to tilt the playing field so far and so deep that it's really hard to put up an opposition to that, to say nothing of wining the argument outright.  As dangerous as it surely is, we may not get that necessary paradigm shift that will allow a productive 1T.

I'm still in the 2T camp.  We're probably too far away from a real paradigm shift for one to occur this late in the 4T game. The Millies seem disinterested in making real change, just in avoiding the full force of the current corrupt paradigm.  That leaves it to the next Prophets, whoever they may be.  How they do what they do and what it will generate is highly unpredictable.  But we Boomers are the modern Transcendentals, and highly influential but only slightly inspirational.  Not many Xers or Millies see us as a model to emulate.  Let's hope the next Prophets do better.

I'm still of a mind to remind you that prophet generations are victory children. I rather think that if we don't make at least some of the needed changes in this 4T, we won't have another 2T. 4Ts are not so much about paradigms, but making institutional change. Once a real 4T gets going, who knows what changes might come. Generations will live up to the need, once it can no longer be avoided.

The larger planetary being we are in offers clues, that our saeculum has a double rhythm, and we had not really come to grips with what changes were needed in the 1850s either. Neptune shows where the zeitgeist largely is by its sign. Neptune in Pisces then, as now, is too diffuse and subject to delusion to mobilize action. But once it gets into Aries in 2025-26, well, as they say, Katy bar the door. The civil war broke out, remember, on the very DAY that Neptune shifted into Aries.

And what might that day of projected judgment be this time around? I would hate to think that Joe Biden might be our current era’s James Buchanan.

The only alternative we have now, since Mitch Landrieu did not run, is that Joe BIden will be the current era's Abraham Lincoln.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: Does this 4T seem a little 2T-ish to anyone else? - by Eric the Green - 03-28-2022, 11:12 PM

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