Does this 4T seem a little 2T-ish to anyone else?

[David Horn]

(03-30-2022, 02:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(03-29-2022, 03:45 PM)David Horn Wrote: Change can be many things. It's hard to say that a "failed" 4T is really a failure, until it really is.  There's a lot of dead wood that needs to burn, and that may be the change we get this time.

We'll know whether our current 4T is a failure when we know whether the blue side or the red side won. If the red side wins, our 4T is a failure and the saeculum game is over. We are toast, period and end of story. And remember EVERY 4T is such an existential threat. If the progressive side had not won previous 4Ts, our republic and the British parliamentary democracy too would not exist today. This time, it is worse. If the blue side does not win this decade, our entire world civilization and all life will no longer exist relatively soon.

I'm less pessimistic about a failed 4T than you are. Yes, failure will have a steep price, but much of what's wrong and needs correction is actually baked into our history and our story about ourselves. It's been defeated in the past, yet if returns. It may be time to let if run its course and prove to everyone how faulty the macho, chest-thumping, island-of-one model really is. I won't claim it will be an easy lesson, nor will it be without serious pain, but it may be necessary at this juncture ... or not. We'll see.

Eric Wrote:Breakdown and death will be the ongoing and irreversible nature of a never-ending 1T. Please keep that in mind. Climate change is the existential threat, and the red side perpetuates and accelerates it, and this will not change. And already is it being ignored again by Democrats too! We have only THIS DECADE to reverse it. Pay attention to the UN reports! Our 4T can still be a success enough to forestall the disaster, but time is running out.

Assuming failure, I doubt we'll move to a flat, unending sameness. It would take an entire saeculum of sameness to make it permanent. I suspect that the next 2T will bring all the failure to the forefront, and, perhaps, kill it for a long time if not for good.