Controversial Political Opinions

[JasonBlack]

(05-16-2022, 05:58 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: The disappearance of freedom for some is the harbinger of similar losses for others. The last thing that any tyrant wants is for everyone to turn against him at once. 

I agree. My point is that it's not realistic to expect the entire world to care about freedom, much less agree on a definition of it.

Quote:Many people want freedom from what they find disgusting, which could be two men or two women acting like a married couple, a 'mixed' couple, or some member of a minority group not showing deference. We need be careful about the expression of disgust, saving such for truly harmful things for others.

precisely

Quote:So where do the not-so-good people go if they have no means of improving themselves?

If they're criminals: to jail. If not, I'd argue that if they have any strong desire to improve themselves, they qualify as good people.

Quote:Maybe this reflects what immigrants a country gets. If they have similar values (let us say Caribbean blacks in the UK) they can more easily adapt to such changes as are necessary. Latin-American immigrants? We already have a large Hispanic middle class that can set norms.  

Deport offenders, of course.

Exactly.

Side note: Liberal whites often fail to realize that....white people are just about the most liberal demographic in the United States. The Hispanic and Asian communities have a strong preference for more pragmatic (rather than overtly religious or spiritually motivated) social conservatism. For the most part, most Hispanics and various Asian-American communities have little desire to imitate the broken family structure of typical WASP Americans. I've said it for years now: the predominant middle class in 10-20 years is going to be Asian people, because white culture can't stop tripping over itself with a combination of guilt, celebrating self-destructive romantic habits and grappling with its identity (there is both a left and a right component to this). The PoC conservatives are all over here like "who cares? I'm just trying to make more money and support my family. Oh look! These foolish white people are all dropping out of the competition."