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Good Immigration Policy as a Replacement for Eugenics
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(06-12-2022, 10:06 PM)JasonBlack Wrote: Disclaimer: obviously, most of what makes you a good or bad person is not genetic. This goes without saying, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on the part that is. 

So I hate all the racism, forced sterilization and other shit associated with Eugenics, but there are two fundamental truths we can't get around
1) If your society is full of shitty and useless people, no amount of good governance can make your people prosper 
2) A good amount of what makes you shitty and/or useless is genetic. There is no getting around that. 

From there though, I....really don't think it has much to do with race. The best thing we can do is have policies that encourage people like entrepreneurs, reputable investors and workers with advanced degrees/work experience to move to our country and contribute their expertise. We know that conscientiousness has some correlation with genetics (mild to moderate depending on the study) and intelligence has a greater correlation (moderate to substantial, depending on the study), which means that not only will you be getting intelligent, diligent workers, but those workers are also more likely to produce offspring which are also....intelligent and diligent. So you get more:
- conscientious, high IQ Guatamalans
- conscientious, high IQ Ethiopans
- conscientious, high IQ Taiwanese
- conscientious, high IQ Bengalis 
- conscientious, high IQ Estonians 


ie....it doesn't matter which race of people we attract more of. It matters that we attract the best people from all over the world, who contribute both their labor and their genes to make America great. To an extent, we've already been doing this for like 300 years, as we've tended to attract brave explorers, ambitious entrepreneurs and competent scientists, who in turn produce children which share some of these characteristics. The best part is that all of this can be accomplished without violence, racial supremacy, sterilization or any other more unethical means. It's completely voluntary and synergistic. In fact, it's something we're already doing....we just need to do more of it.

Most immigration today comes from south of the border. Many of these immigrants are poor, and victims of drugs, guns and gangs, dictators and death squads, climate destruction, etc. But it is well to remember that their ethnic difference from most USA Americans is minor; indigenous (14,000-year ancestry Americans) plus European (Spanish and Portuguese rather than northern and eastern, but originally those were mostly all the same people).

Genetics is entirely over-rated. People are pretty much the same. Culture and economy is another matter, and the degree of exploitive history. In the past, the USA has attracted adventurous people who wanted a fresh start, and they have tended to be restless dreamers and poor people from countries with dictators and famine. Sort of like today, but northern and eastern European and later Asian instead of Latin America like today. In CA and WA, lots of Asians have come again, and some have settled in Texas too.

We used to accept refugees from tyranny, but we are not doing that today. Biden kept the border closed, and now the Court is keeping it closed. But Republicans still lie and complain. That's all they can f**king do.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: Good Immigration Policy as a Replacement for Eugenics - by Eric the Green - 06-13-2022, 01:49 AM

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