Rate Each of the US Presidents (who you have studied)

[JasonBlack]

Quote:S: FDR
A: Lincoln,
A-: Washington, TR, JFK, Truman
B+: Wilson, Jefferson, Clinton, Obama,
B-: Biden,
C+: Eisenhower, Carter, Jackson, Hayes, Arthur, Polk, Monroe, JQ Adams, Taft
C-: Madison, Grover Cleveland, LBJ, Bush Sr, Adams, Grant, B. Harrison, Taylor, Van Buren, Ford
D+: Nixon, Fillmore
D-: Reagan (that's a generous placement on my part), Tyler, Hoover, Coolidge, Pierce,
F: Harding, Bush Jr, Trump, Andrew Johnson, Buchanan

Wilson B-: wait...what?! Severely racist autocrat who got us into WWII, sold us to the Fed bankers, substantially raised taxes with little increase in services in return and was sighted by Mussolini as a key influence in his works and policies on fascism (Wilson hated checks and balances and thought the president should be able to do whatever was necessary for the public good). Oh, and let's not forget being the grandfather of America's current nosy, violent interventionist policies in the name of "spreading democracy" (which he didn't even seem to believe much in the first place).

One could argue that Obama was a bit more charismatic, likable and diplomatic, but given how similar their policies were, I'm a little confused on why Obama and Bush are so far apart (I have little complaint about Bush Jr. being super low)

Any reason Bush Sr. is so low though? Unlike his son, he's seen by even most liberals to have been a superbly competent administrator and had approval ratings peaking at over 90%.

Quote:His (FDR) policies get a solid A too, as far as they went, but needed to go farther.

uh...there's no evidence that they actually worked. He had over a decade for them to do so, but we didn't really get out of the war until WW2 amped up production.

Quote:I see these a bit differently. JFK's affairs did little to affect his presidency at a time when private affairs were quite justly kept private. I see it as none of my nor anyone's business to judge his sexual behavior or personal choices in relationships. The one thing I wonder about regarding JFK, is whether he had lost a good deal of Jackie's love through his infidelity, and this made Jackie too hesitant in the 5 seconds that counted to pull JFK and herself down in the car before the head shot and thus save his life instead of just stupidly looking into his throat and seeing if there was something wrong. He was being shot; when shots ring out you duck and cover. Governor and Mrs. Connally did. But Jackie didn't, and maybe if JFK had earned her love she would have reacted with more readiness to meet the situation.

As for Bill Clinton, I see his affairs as the failure of hypocritical Republicans and Mr. Starr and the media for making his scandal, when again it was none of our business, and except for this big distraction that the Republicans made over it, had no effect on his governance and policies, and he and his admin were not corrupt, but honest; quite unlike Reagan, Nixon and Trump.

On the other hand, Trump not only had many affairs but paid for one of them and paid to cover them up. And quite unlike JFK they were often unwanted advances. So that's a bit more corrupt than Clinton was about sex, who only said about his consensual (but risky) affair with Lewinsky to a grand jury that "it depends on what the meaning of the word is, is", so yes Bill lied about sex as Trump did, but unlike Trump he came clean later, and didn't pay hush money; and it is the rest of Trump's infinite level of corruption and incompetence that makes his administration a failure, and twice impeached, and in fact I rate him the worst USA president ever; although Bush Jr. is right behind him for his unnecessary killings of 400,000 people based on lies and his otherwise useless, corrupt, undemocratic and defective policies.

I didn't include affairs in any of the president's scores, since affairs among US presidents have been common from the get go.