The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(08-21-2022, 12:20 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-21-2022, 01:41 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(08-20-2022, 08:06 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-19-2022, 01:45 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: ... Why do a few Republicans get it, and most don't? And I think there is a tendency among some to really think that Trump represents them against the elites. They are simply deceived, and there's just not much more to it than that, as far as I can tell. And their supposed anti-elitism really translates into support for policies that uphold the elites and their destruction even of the common people themselves, and that is another indication of their extreme level of ignorance and foolishness. I encounter it often online.

We all see through our own lens, and the GOP lens centers on class validation: some are just more worthy than others, and stubborn continuity.  In a way this is the issue that is facturing the party and may, in the long run, finally overcome the negatives.  The problem: what consitutes the long run?

We T4Ters have a unique lens, based on the idea that history operates over saecula consisting of turnings.  What we lack is any ability to see into the future with a high degree of precision -- so we speculate.  The GOP just assumes that their continuiy model is a fact, not a theory (and a weak one at that).  The real problem is pace and timing.  When and how quickly can this be resolved are now the burning questions.  Soon we all hope.

It may be that by nominating so many election deniers to key offices, federal as well as state, that they may be making things easier for Democrats to keep and improve their majority during this crucial decade. Let's hope they keep doing us that favor, and that the people respond appropriately to it and vote to retain democracy as well as a livable climate and economy.

The polls are wide in some cases, such as PA senate and governor and AZ senate. In some cases like AZ governor the polls are uncomfortably close.

Unfortunately, there are still stresses that can tear that apart.  In more Progressive areas (though toss-ups in the fall), primary challenges may do to the Democrats what the Trumpist far-right challengers are doing to the GOP: nominate unelectable candiates in the general.  It can play both ways.  The next few weeks should tell the tale.  

Challenging Sean Patrick Maloney in his reconfigured district seems near suicidal.  He may not be the most Progressive candidiate running, but he wins and helps others win too.  And he's pretty decent overall.  He's only one example.  With the count so close, outright failure is both possible and likely to be devastating if it occurs.

My impression of you has been that you support such challenges from the left (except if they are SJW culture warriors, I suppose). But I agree with your above. I don't know if such suicidal primary actions are happening; primaries are about over by now anyway. The right-wing may be giving us a present. But that depends if the people realize this and vote accordingly.

I thought Sean Patrick Maloney spoke very well today on Meet the Press. It took him a while to sort of dodge Chuck's question about Democrats' support for a MAGA primary candidate in Michigan; not a good idea even if understandable strategy. We should never underestimate the appeal of fascism.