Aaaaand I was 100% WRONG About China

[JasonBlack]

Quote:Meanwhile reversing the trend toward destruction of our climate is job one of THIS fourth turning. Our survival depends on this, which is why it is the crisis of this 4T. Neoliberalism is the chief culprit in this, and has to end. Reagan was wrong! Government is part of the solution; not the problem!

Our quandary over this issue isn't about if climate change is real or if we should do about it. From the get go, it's always been "is this particular solution tenable or sufficient?" 

The analogy I would is: Just as you want to end slavery for the sake of slaves, you want to end (man made) climate change for the sake of humans. Most of the measures I've seen from most liberals sound like the equivalent of shooting down the slave ship before the slaves even have a time to get to free land. The economy will never magically transition away from fossil fuels overnight. If you try too many aggressive bans too quickly to stop the engines of the economy, you'll just end up making everyone poor, potentially to the point of starvation. Halting climate change at the expense of ruining the standard of living of the entire developed world is a Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one.


Edit: Just after posting this, I found a recent news clip that perfectly illustrates my point. When faced with the potential for poverty and societal collapse...of course Germany switches back to previous sources of fuel. Developing countries around the world have felt pressure from the EU to try to phase out their own carbon emissions, but given recent events, they're clapping back and saying "You're turning back to fossil fuels because you have no way of avoiding poverty? Great, so how the hell can you expect us not to do the same when already live EVERY DAY in poverty and rely on these fuels for transport and agricultural inputs?"