Is President Biden too old and dated, or is he the gray champion

[Eric the Green]

(09-08-2022, 02:47 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(09-07-2022, 11:36 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-05-2022, 08:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: (snip)

I think rather (Biden) is exactly the guy. Biden is a dedicated and capable politician who has a long record of accomplishment. That may not appeal to those who think rebellion consists of not accomplishing anything. For that, Trump is your guy.

His appeal in these speeches is to move us forward, even in spite of the Establishment's resistance. He is saying we CAN accomplish things. Accomplishing things in government is always to challenge the Establishment, because the Establishment wants no change, and no challenge to their ability to fleece the people with low wages, destructive policies and oppression of the working and middle class, and allowing or fostering the growing wealth of the elites to the obscene levels they have reached today. That what Trump offered and delivered to the nation; more of the same of this pampering of elites.

Biden offers instead programs to help the people achieve a prosperous life of some "consequence", despite the efforts of the wealthy economic-libertarian elite to hog all the benefits and opportunities of the last 40 years of Reaganomics, whose success at the ballot box for 40 years had been enhanced by ceaseless appeals to prejudice.

I'm glad we now have our true, truly-gray gray champion!

Your so-called gray champion isn't even going to make it through his first term.

If he doesn't, then we will have Democrats scrambling for that role. Kamala Harris is the obvious successor.

Sorry, no, Kamala Harris cannot fulfill the role.

Biden will run in 2024, so Democrats will be getting out of his way, not scrambling to succeed him. There are no skilled or competent candidates AS candidates to succeed him on the scene now. But by 2028, there may be.

I think the people sense what the astrology confirms. If Harris is nominated in 2024 (or anytime later), the Democrats will lose the White House. Bank on it! At such a time as this, that would be an unparalled disaster!

Quote:I expect President Biden to be around at the time of Donald Trump's demise. In view of Trump's bad habits, I am surprised that he is still alive. Should he end up with a long prison term that is the usual consequence of stealing and abusing classified information, then his life or death will mean little because he would die in prison. Trump deserves the effective death that the likes of Aldrich Ames and Andrew Hanssen now endure. 

We can hope. He certainly belongs in jail, but people defer to him because of the violent threats of his followers, today's "brown shirts." Trump is a fascist, but even the Italians eventually turned on their fascist (of whom Trump may be the reincarnation; certainly following his example).

Quote:But just as much worth considering: the Skowronek cycle explains clearly why Donald Trump is such a political dud. The political memes that compel so much political change at first (Reagan policies) wear thin over about forty years. The law of diminishing returns applies as much to ideas as to material objects. Reagan's crony-capitalist plutocracy may have been successful in stopping inflation by ensuring that millions of people made contributions to productivity and service while being paid so little that they got priced out of almost anything not a bare necessity, but at some point that becomes terribly ineffective. Trump pushed far harder than Reagan in support of a reactionary agenda that has achieved practically nothing. Pushing harder and getting weak or questionable results is failure, whether political, economic, or cultural. 

The Skowronek cycle explains why Jimmy Carter was so ineffective; he sought to revive the New Deal after it had played out. Carter was a good man, a smart man with none of the vices.   

Agreed.

Quote:This ignores the manifold deficiencies of Donald Trump as a person. We had a President who in many ways shows how to be President, and that is Obama. Obama is an arch-conservative in many ways -- all but his economic agenda. A conservative, pro-business version of Barack Obama is exactly what will be how an effective President from the conservative side will be like. It will not be the vindictive, corrupt, hollow, demagogue that is the disaster that we know as Donald Trump.

We are approaching the end of the 4T and approaching the dawn of a 1T. In a 1T, politics becomes a matter of ensuring that everybody gets something and that everyone makes a contribution.

Yes, by 2030 we should be in the 1T. A moderate Republican like Spencer Cox could be elected sometime during the 1T, perhaps even as late as 2040. A Democrat could still win in 2028 though. It depends on who runs, and what their candidate skills are as candidates. Also, the two-party system is teetering. If the 4T gets more wild than we expect right now, the political party system may look very different by the time the 1T rolls around. I would think if the Republicans continue on their current course, they won't outlast the 4T. If things get even wilder, even the United States as it currently exists could split up, or become a fast-declining autocracy.

Our country is complacent and insecure, so the odds are against such a wild 4T. But the right-wing, even 40% of the people, have already gone off the deep end, and will require a wilder left-wing to meet and defeat it, AND to handle and transform what the right-wing has created since 1981. So, we'll see. The times they are a-changing, and the battle is being joined; the curse has been cast. The battle outside ragin' will soon shake our windows and rattle our walls (and already did, senators, congressmen!). And the weather outside is ragin' too. The waters around us have grown.