10-01-2022, 03:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2022, 04:07 AM by Eric the Green.)
I made a post about her somewhere on facebook. Meloni is described as "far right." It mostly seems to be about her background and that of her Party, which may not be as far right now. And the issues that she seems "far right" about, as discussed in the news so far, seem to be mainly culture war/identity issues. She may try to repress LGBTQ people, and restrict immigration. Italy has a worse immigration problem than the USA does; with the constant flow of refugees from middle east tyrants like Assad, as well as people fleeing destroyed environments and wars in Africa. Immigration will be a constant and increasing issue from now on. As George Monbiot said in his great video, in many countries there will simply be nothing there for people where they live, no social, environmental or economic basis for them, pushed out by war, tyranny, climate change and more, so they will try to enter other countries.
https://youtu.be/Z7MFJ4EFezQ?t=709
It's no wonder Europe is reacting against all this immigration. It can't be helped, and the people need to go somewhere. But it's hard to handle, inspect and provide for so many people at once. Many Europeans feel that their identity is threatened if too many people from other ethnic groups and religions settle there, so they vote for cultural-conservative "right-wing" candidates. These migrants may only be there for a few years, perhaps, until things can be restored back home, and Europeans should remember that. Refugees are not necessarily permanent settlers. People are going to need to let loose with their identities more, because we live in a global society and nowhere will be free from ethnic diversity, as migration and immigration continues.
There are limits on what a prime minister can do in Italy; there's lots of checks and balances and barriers to a return to fascism. Maybe Meloni will try; we don't know if she will decrease democracy and assert greater tyranny as has happened in the other "far right" countries she wants to associate with, like Hungary, Poland and Turkey. But she seems to be steadfast in her support for Ukraine and its freedom against the Russian monster. That's good. "Far right" leaders in places like the USA and Poland are more concerned about freedom and justice abroad than at home, so we'll see. But if she's really "far right," it's hard to tell, because they don't tell us much about how far she wants to cut back on the social and economic safety net for the poor and out-of-luck people, although she seems to favor welfare cutbacks (in other words, is she a neoliberal like Truss?). What is her willingness to act on climate change? I haven't heard. What is her approach to crime? Is she really "far right" beyond the culture war? We don't really know.
As I often point out, that's easy to say and to fall back on such outdated ideas, and it's fine to be proud of and interested in your country, but to make good decisions about what's good for your country can't be separated anymore from what's the best decisions for the world and all humanity. Issues like the economy and climate change/the environment and pandemics and even identity/migration issues cross borders and continents. And if a leader rips up democracy in one place, it detracts from everyone, and if that leader thinks what's best for their country is to start a war, that would certainly affect those countries that are attacked and all their allies, and would cause more refugees that other countries must deal with. Putin and Assad are exhibits A and B in that respect.
https://youtu.be/Z7MFJ4EFezQ?t=709
It's no wonder Europe is reacting against all this immigration. It can't be helped, and the people need to go somewhere. But it's hard to handle, inspect and provide for so many people at once. Many Europeans feel that their identity is threatened if too many people from other ethnic groups and religions settle there, so they vote for cultural-conservative "right-wing" candidates. These migrants may only be there for a few years, perhaps, until things can be restored back home, and Europeans should remember that. Refugees are not necessarily permanent settlers. People are going to need to let loose with their identities more, because we live in a global society and nowhere will be free from ethnic diversity, as migration and immigration continues.
There are limits on what a prime minister can do in Italy; there's lots of checks and balances and barriers to a return to fascism. Maybe Meloni will try; we don't know if she will decrease democracy and assert greater tyranny as has happened in the other "far right" countries she wants to associate with, like Hungary, Poland and Turkey. But she seems to be steadfast in her support for Ukraine and its freedom against the Russian monster. That's good. "Far right" leaders in places like the USA and Poland are more concerned about freedom and justice abroad than at home, so we'll see. But if she's really "far right," it's hard to tell, because they don't tell us much about how far she wants to cut back on the social and economic safety net for the poor and out-of-luck people, although she seems to favor welfare cutbacks (in other words, is she a neoliberal like Truss?). What is her willingness to act on climate change? I haven't heard. What is her approach to crime? Is she really "far right" beyond the culture war? We don't really know.
Quote:"It isn't to be a moral paragon to the world, it isn't to bring together all of humanity. Your goal as a statesman is to make decisions about what is best for your country."
As I often point out, that's easy to say and to fall back on such outdated ideas, and it's fine to be proud of and interested in your country, but to make good decisions about what's good for your country can't be separated anymore from what's the best decisions for the world and all humanity. Issues like the economy and climate change/the environment and pandemics and even identity/migration issues cross borders and continents. And if a leader rips up democracy in one place, it detracts from everyone, and if that leader thinks what's best for their country is to start a war, that would certainly affect those countries that are attacked and all their allies, and would cause more refugees that other countries must deal with. Putin and Assad are exhibits A and B in that respect.