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2022 midterm polls
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(10-13-2022, 05:01 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 04:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I dunno, how sane is it to continue supporting, promoting and trying to elect someone (Biden) who was/is  showing obvious signs of dementia, carelessness and incompetence?

Except for the minor fact that he's had an immesely productive first 21 months.  You may hate what he's done, but you can't deny that he has ... even snookering Mitch McConnell on the infrastructure bill.  

Note: He's not my first choice either.  The elderly should not be setting policy for the 90+% of the much younger members of the citizenry.  It's just wroong! But a choice of cogger Biden v cogger Trump: no problem going for Biden.  I suspect neither will actually run in 2024; Trump may even be a convict by then.  But Biden would be wise to rest on his well-deserved laurels and spend the rest of his life traveling.

It might seem that way, but given the other choices Democrats have to run, and given the horoscope insights, which people usually observe about candidates anyway even without any knowledge of or belief in such indications, no-one but Biden has any chance despite his age.

Gavin Newsom is an exception, but you had the insight that maybe's he's too California to get nominated and win. Maybe that's one reason why Saturn indicates he might well lose in 2024 if the patterns hold, and then by 2028 people will have gotten used to him as a national figure and effective governor and not just a California liberal culture warrior.

The other 2020 Democratic candidates, with the possible exception of fellow-codger Bernie Sanders, proved abundantly that they should never be considered again. That includes many who dropped out early. I'm afraid any others you could name, like Gretchen Whitmer, just can't be relied upon either if the Republicans choose a viable candidate. And Kamala Harris is a guaranteed loser, and people know for themselves that my indicators are right about this; if Biden bows out the risk of a Harris nomination is great and would be a dismal disaster. It is already too late for any little-known figure to rise to prominence. The campaign will start right as the new congress convenes.

Even Trump will be hard to beat if he is allowed to run. You can't dismiss his base of support that is still loyal to him in spite of everything. They just don't care; they like him, he appeals to their prejudice and to their own common natures. The Classic Xers of America will never desert him. A weak Democratic candidate will not be able to prevail against the Trump cult; but Biden did, and can again. He may well be too old to do very well by 2028, but in 2024 he will only be one or two years older than he is now, and if anything he has become a more dynamic speaker in office, as I demonstrated here beyond any doubt. The important thing is to win the election in 2024, not whether he is fully functional in 2028. Any Republican victory is a full scale disaster at this critical time.

Besides possibly Gavin Newsom, the only other guaranteed exception now is Mitch Landrieu. He has now taken a position in the Biden administration overseeing implementation of the infrastructure bill. The odds still seem high against him launching a campaign in 2023, but they have improved a bit because of his new activity. I could guarantee that even if his status doesn't rise any higher than this, that he would win any time he runs and wins the nomination. He will defer to Biden's decision though, as will Newsom.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 07-07-2022, 12:20 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 07-07-2022, 11:44 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Classic-Xer - 07-28-2022, 07:50 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 07-29-2022, 07:25 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2022, 05:35 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 08-01-2022, 02:54 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-01-2022, 03:28 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 08-02-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-02-2022, 01:21 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 08-02-2022, 04:30 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-04-2022, 12:08 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 07-16-2022, 12:13 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 07-16-2022, 07:57 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-01-2022, 06:17 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-04-2022, 09:56 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-04-2022, 11:40 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-06-2022, 03:37 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-06-2022, 12:35 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-06-2022, 03:37 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 08-07-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-07-2022, 09:13 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-07-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-17-2022, 02:15 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-17-2022, 02:58 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2022, 04:02 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-17-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-18-2022, 12:26 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-18-2022, 01:23 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-19-2022, 04:47 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-19-2022, 11:41 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 08-22-2022, 11:22 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 08-23-2022, 10:21 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 09-23-2022, 12:29 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 09-23-2022, 06:20 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 09-23-2022, 11:09 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-06-2022, 08:06 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-13-2022, 05:01 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-14-2022, 02:46 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-15-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 08-23-2022, 05:57 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 09-22-2022, 12:42 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 09-22-2022, 06:17 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 09-22-2022, 06:55 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 09-23-2022, 12:27 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2022, 01:21 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-17-2022, 01:38 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-17-2022, 05:26 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2022, 12:57 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-18-2022, 05:02 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2022, 12:05 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-19-2022, 11:53 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2022, 12:08 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-19-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2022, 07:11 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2022, 06:56 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-19-2022, 08:04 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2022, 08:16 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-19-2022, 09:15 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2022, 08:14 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-20-2022, 02:07 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-20-2022, 11:47 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-20-2022, 05:09 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-03-2022, 01:26 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-20-2022, 06:11 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-20-2022, 07:08 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-21-2022, 07:44 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-21-2022, 11:36 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-21-2022, 11:37 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-21-2022, 12:38 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-21-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-22-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2022, 09:44 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 10-24-2022, 11:51 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-27-2022, 11:39 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 10-27-2022, 05:26 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2022, 12:34 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-01-2022, 09:17 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-03-2022, 12:44 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-05-2022, 01:53 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 11-06-2022, 08:38 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-07-2022, 03:47 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-07-2022, 05:28 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-09-2022, 02:14 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-09-2022, 03:05 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-09-2022, 03:37 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 11-09-2022, 12:03 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-09-2022, 04:41 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 11-10-2022, 02:00 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-10-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by gabrielle - 11-10-2022, 05:18 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-10-2022, 06:01 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by David Horn - 11-11-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-09-2022, 10:06 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-11-2022, 02:19 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-11-2022, 03:49 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-12-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-12-2022, 04:05 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by galaxy - 11-13-2022, 03:41 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-14-2022, 03:01 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-14-2022, 03:13 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-14-2022, 01:50 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-14-2022, 02:45 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-14-2022, 07:58 PM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-15-2022, 01:14 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-15-2022, 07:58 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by Eric the Green - 11-15-2022, 01:21 AM
RE: 2022 midterm polls - by pbrower2a - 11-24-2022, 11:14 AM

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