Is there anything you'd be willing to fight a war for?

[David Horn]

(10-18-2022, 06:59 PM)JasonBlack Wrote:

(10-18-2022, 06:53 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Black Panthers opted for this exact solution, and paid for it with their lives and the defeat of their movement. It is not practical. But they and all of us on the Left or moderate Left may be forced into it if the rightwing gun nuts take power and impose their cult on us. But I would "assume the worst" outcome in that case too.

The people must vote them down and out of office to avoid this outcome. That means in 3 weeks from the time of this post. Vote against Keri Lake, for example. And all Secretary of State election denier candidates. For best results vote against any Republican; they are all easily intimidated by Trump's cult these days. Only one current Republican congressman, who faces a tough race in CA, had the courage to oppose Trump. A Republican House will put Boebert, Greene and other election deniers and vote suppressors in charge of the congress.

Violent crime has been dropping rapidly since the 80s (minus a recent uptick because the Covid19 era has been utter madness), and yet people consider this some "defeat" for guns.

There is no evidence that a "good guy with a gun" is a factor in preventing, deterring or stopping crime.  In fact, quite the opposite.  The decline in criminal activity has a lot more to do with the Xers aging out of the violent demographic, and improvements in work opportunities not COVID, and an effect now in active reversal.  Watch for more crime, regardless of what is done.

And let's not forget that the era of mass shooting started and has grown in direct proportion to the number of guns in circulation.  We will have to remove a huge number of them at some point, and it won't be pretty when we do.