Is there anything you'd be willing to fight a war for?

[JasonBlack]

(11-03-2022, 12:28 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-01-2022, 06:25 PM)JasonBlack Wrote:

(11-01-2022, 04:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: But I am applauding the trend of people quitting work to make a statement, but it's not contemptuous and not especially social; just that people want to find work doing what they want to do or at least get better pay, which sure is not the case now under minimum wages of $7.25 an hour in red states.

That's easy for you to say. The first half of millennials (and this is one area I have much common ground with millennial democrats) have spent the last 15 years trying to convince people that we're not lazy...and then the second half of millennials and early wave Gen Z came along like "pfft! We never promised we wouldn't be lazy. Tough shit man, we're just gonna live off our parents while you do the real work". A lot of the more reasonable millennial democrats have switched over to our side cuz they're sick of this.

A lot of the more reasonable millennial democrats are unreasonable then. Republicans are HORRIFIC! They only oppresse the people in the name of free enterprise and guns. You don't have any way of proving what you say about late-wave millennials and early Gen Z.

The people quitting their jobs recently are not of one sub-generation; they are of all ages!

Take this job and shove it! After a while, given the opportunity, people will quit their shitty neoliberalReaganomics-era job and look for better options after being subjected to horrific oppression by bosses and slave wages. Labor is asserting its rights! Under renewed neoliberalism after this shitty election, there will be more rebellion! God Damn America!

I'm really not a fan of the way "slave" is thrown around so dramatically by the left (it gets worse the further left you go). One of the reasons why PoC tend to think that white liberals are weirdos with some of their positions is that any immigrant from Nigeria, Pakistan, China or Russia would laugh at you if you tried to say that low wage earners in the US were "slaves". Even so, I'm happy we're at least focusing on the economic end of things, rather than presenting that the performative social posturing and empty appeals to solidarity/inclusiveness are really the root cause here.

I'm skeptical of some of their authoritarian tendencies, but from what I've seen, some of these rising right wing politicians across Europe have more reasonable platforms than the "there's no such thing as society" types of right wingers in the US (I ordinarily like Thatcher, but that quote is painfully naive and is never going to win votes consistently during a 4T).

At present, the right is still playing too much of the "lone ranger conservatism" that isn't going to get anything done, and the left is too busy cannibalizing itself with ever harsher and more pedantic cancelations, appeals to singular demographics and witch hunts that pit them against each other even more than they do the right. Both have yet to return to any form of mindset that would ask "how do we get society functional again?" One of the reasons America tends to lean 3T is that we're eternally skeptical of institutions and have a rebellion-as-tradition approach to their entire lives. Mid-to-late 4Ts are necessary because they are a rare period where Americans are forced to revalue some form of institutions even as they grow increasingly cynical of the existing ones.