The Partisan Divide on Issues

[JasonBlack]

(11-06-2022, 12:33 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: If the right-wing Party is completely irrational, or is bowing to the influence of those hypnotized by the completely irrational, what basis is there for negotiation or reasoned debate and discussion? In past 4Ts there has always been almost none; it has always been war. I would like to think we might have progressed since then and brought history to a higher level. But the MAGA Republicans have exploded that hope to smithereens. This 4T will also likely be resolved by war, although as many observers like Bill Maher and others point out, it won't be two armies fighting from two contiguous territories, but sporadic acts of violence like Jan.6th or like Dylann Roof in many places. It can only be resolved in favor of the Left if the Left commands loyal state well-regulated militias, since if the Left is to be the rebel, it will be outmatched both by private and public militias. Riots in the streets is about all that the Left can muster without state power, and that will not resolve anything. This was all predicted by me through astrology decades ago and in my books and the scenario seems to be coming to pass as I expected.

But a Left or progressive victory is the only way a 4T can be positively resolved so that the nation continues to prosper and eventually progress again. I have predicted this victory. But if the right-wing ever wins the 4T, the nation and its saecula ends, unless rescued by an outside power just as the USA itself rescued Europe and Japan after their failed 4Ts last time. But who will rescue the USA this time?

And you wonder why I am so pro gun? 

Honestly, in the event that we can reasonably see eye to eye with regards to just what qualifies as an "extremist", you have the Jason Seal of Approval to lock'em up and avoid trying to reason with them all you want. You have no such seal if we are talking about normal farmers, business owners, factory owners or (law-abiding) policemen.

Alas, we at least partially see eye to eye on this. The left don't have much hope here. 
1) Respectfully, hippies in the United States, be they boomer or later generations, have never been good at playing the side of the establishment. Their entire sense of self is built around rebelling against things.
2)The left cannot organize their way out of a grocery bag. Millennial Democrats are marginally better, but the heroes of a war are generally too young to be its organizers. You will need the help of midlife Nomads and elder Prophets to pull that off, and at present, the latter don't have a cohesive plan and the former tend to be much more moderate than the prevailing social winds of your party. 
3) The waves of Cancel Culture crashing against the shores of American culture have mostly washed away other liberals who become casualties of in-fighting. When you cancel right wingers, none of their base cares. It might even give them more street cred *insert clickbait "The Cancel Me For Saying __" video that gets a million years here* 
4) The majority of the fit young males in this country are right wing. 
5) Right wingers are considerably higher on trait conscientiousness 
6) Republicans outnumber Democrats in the military by considerable margin (something like 28% vs 45%)
7) As you said, the right wingers own all the guns.

None of these are themselves arguments about who is right, but they are arguments for who would win. 

Anyway, I haven't given up hope that some sort of more rational negotiation can take place (there is a reason I scream "I'm a moderate!" "I'm a moderate!" so often in these conversations). You can rest assured though, the ounce of satisfaction I will get from my side winning will not outweigh the pound of trauma, death and sacrifice it will come at the cost of, and that's assuming I live until the end of it.