05-18-2016, 08:54 AM
(05-17-2016, 02:22 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(05-17-2016, 10:33 AM)Bronco80 Wrote: Replying to some points made in this thread, starting here...
http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...tml#pid650
...when people protest about this pay gap, it's not just about one particular number alleging that men regularly get paid more dollars than women. It's a shorthand for a wide array of factors that make it more difficult for women to advance their professional careers. One of the bigger ones I can think of is that there's still a lot of pressure for women to leave their jobs after they give birth to children while men pursue the traditional breadwinner role. The more women you have out of the workforce or at significantly reduced hours, the less pay they're going to receive in the aggregate. Much of the advocacy regarding this pay gap isn't just about money but also for equal opportunity and duties in both the workforce and in the household.
You are aware that women can choose to not have children right? You are aware that females have more and better contraceptive options than men, right? You are aware that even should those options fail that women are in complete control of the unborn one until it is in fact born, right?
Or do you deny that women have personal agency too?
The problem is the myth that "you can have it all, a career and a family". When one undertakes having a family sacrifices to career often have to be made.
Answering your questions in order:
1) Sure, but a lot of women want to have children (kind of a pretty important part of the human species and all), and many of them want to have a career too, just like men. Not all parents want both, and there's nothing wrong with that, but in the many cases where they do, there should be a presumption of equal sacrifice.
2) "Better" is a pretty broad term. Condoms might not be the most effective, but they're also by far the cheapest and easiest to get. Women have to go through several other loops to get their common forms of contraception, only made more difficult by needless legal barriers thrown up.
3) Actually, in a lot of states women don't have that complete control. We really need Scalia to get replaced on SCOTUS with someone that might get us pointed in that direction.
4) I don't believe I'm denying that, what makes you think I am?