This is how realignments happen

[Eric the Green]

(09-16-2016, 10:33 AM)Anthony 58 Wrote:

(09-16-2016, 10:15 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: 1861, actually; but who's counting

Actually, 1961 too. Kennedy calls us to begin; then invades the Bay of Pigs. Lessons learned.

But there was no perihelion/opposition of Mars and the Sun in 1961.  There was one in 1956, and the next one was not until 1971; then in 1988, and again in 2003.

Don't know what you're talking about. Sun-Mars opposition happens every two years, as I mentioned to you before. Maybe some are closer to the Earth than others (I remember 1971 was very close), but they are all about equally significant, astrologically-speaking. The weeks after the Mars stations are the critical times. Remember, Mars has a two-year orbit, not a 15-17-year orbit.

So, I'm not sure what you mean. An "opposition" refers to Mars coming closest to the Earth, with the Sun opposite Mars with the Earth in between (like a lunar eclipse, with Mars instead of the Moon). This happens every 2 years. Perihelion means closest to the Sun, and does not imply an "opposition." An opposition involves the Sun, Mars and Earth. How close Mars is to the Earth also depends on how close the Earth goes in its orbit to Mars, and most of all how close Mars is to the Sun when it's also closest to the Earth.

The Jupiter-Saturn conjunction was late in the year 1861, in October. The Sun Mars opposition happened in July 1860. The closest recent relationship to a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction of a Sun-Mars opposition was in 1961, when the opposition occurred on Dec.29 1960 and the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on Feb 19, 1961. The Mars station direct also happened in February 1961.

So maybe you mean an opposition that happens when Mars is also close to perihelion. But I could not find any websites that list the times of Mars perihelions. An astrological ephemeris does not list it. Where did you get this info?

Jupiter reaches conjunction to Saturn on Dec.21, 2020. Sun opposite Mars happens on Oct.13. The Sun is in trine to Mars (120 degrees away) on Dec.11.

Quote:Back to the original post though: Trump's support for this maternity leave thing doesn't shock me one bit.  The "New Right" - which includes such burgeoning movements as Five Star in Italy and Alternatives For Germany in that country - has absolutely no problem with government doing such things as feeding the hungry, healing the sick (whether they're rich or not), and sheltering the homeless - just so long as those hungry, sick and homeless are natural-born citizens of their own country.

Because they are Malthusian nationalists - not Social Darwinists.

They are Social Darwinists too, because they want to unleash business to its own devices and give it lots of breaks, just like Reagan whom Trump cites as a predecessor. And they are racists, which is what Social Darwinism is all about too. Yes, umm, they ARE Social Darwinists. Big time. And you can't lump Trump's deplorables in with any Europeans. Americans are just a lot dumber.

Trump is not a realignment. He's just a deplorable; a symptom of system and electorate breakdown.