09-20-2016, 12:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-20-2016, 12:50 PM by Eric the Green.)
(09-20-2016, 11:46 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(09-15-2016, 12:10 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Somehow I cannot see Kennedy/Johnson as quite the disaster that Dubya was. Dubya was a thoroughly-awful President, essentially the telescoping of Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover disasters of twelve years into eight. Any decay during the Kennedy/Johnson years was of a cultural consensus (the Counterculture with the introduction of the Boom Awakening).
You weren't draft age during the Vietnam war, were you? You might look at how many Americans got killed in Vietnam versus Iraq.
To that I would say, I agree; Vietnam was a worse disaster than Iraq.
However, all the "awakener" presidents, like Jackson and TR, were also war mongers.
Vietnam was LBJ's disaster. Bush had more disasters though; a whole set of them: 9-11/Afghanistan, Iraq, Katrina, the crash of 2008. Bush was the Hoover, but not Johnson, because LBJ did not lead us into a 4T as George W Bush did. The legacy of LBJ is mixed, and your view of him depends on your politics. Same with Bush II, but there's more consensus that Bush II's legacy is disaster, and little if anything good.