10-06-2016, 12:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2016, 12:56 PM by Eric the Green.)
(10-06-2016, 11:29 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(10-06-2016, 10:24 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(10-06-2016, 09:06 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: Considering Clinton's totalitarian tendencies, the idea that the western left is less fond of totalitarianism than the western right seems absurd.
You are engaging in a vile stereotype. It is true the Western Leftists are Statists. But what they are not are Statists who want the state to be completely lawless and brutal, operating completely beyond any sort of Constitutional norms.
It's the left that wants to strip the second amendment of any meaning by reversing Heller and McDonald. It's the left that wants to strip corporate newspapers of first amendment protection by reversing Citizen's United. The right cares much more about constitutional protections for citizens than the left does.
I might have known. Gun fanaticism. I'll take restrictions on guns anytime over the right-wing's support for money and oligarchy instead of democracy (Citizen's United), denial of climate change, facilitation of greed, facilitation of poverty through discrimination and trickle-down economics, restrictions on voting rights, censorship, brown-shirt type fomentation of violence, racial profiling and dog-whistle racism, excuses and facilitation of police shootings and civilian police armies, thousands killed in unnecessary wars, drug wars, and more good stuff that you guys like. Sorry, but bringing up guns as the basis for calling the left "totalitarian" riles me up. Thanks for your opinion though. To me though there's nothing more totalitarian IMO than allowing people to have lots of guns to impose their will on others at the point of a barrel.
Quote:Quote: In general, Western leftists are not oriented toward violence and many are unarmed. Meanwhile, the Revolutionary Right, are not only heavily armed but are also prone to application of such arms toward violent means. Does all of this escape you?
"Violence" and "totalitarianism" are not the same things. Right wing militias are armed for protection against the state, not in order to enforce state power.
But even with respect to violence, let's not forget that it's the left wing that's actually got snipers assassinating people, as in Dallas.
There was no such left wing assassination; sorry. You have to really reach to grab that debunked liberal conspiracy theory! I suppose you want to identify Lee Harvey Oswald as representative of the left wing? Gimme a break.
Right wing armed militias protect the rights of corporate bosses, racist mobs, polluting land-squatters, gun fanatics, and other vehicles of the real "state," as opposed to the peoples' state. The right wing enforces the rights of the strong and wealthy against the rest of us, by any means necessary. Respect the law, and respect justice for all. Then we won't need any kind of militias.