05-24-2018, 02:38 AM
(05-24-2018, 12:47 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(05-23-2018, 11:14 PM)TheNomad Wrote:(05-23-2018, 04:03 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(05-23-2018, 02:08 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(05-23-2018, 11:44 AM)tg63 Wrote: I personally question the notion that the Boomers will start giving up power in 5 years or so. In 5 years they will range between 63-80. With improved health (compared with past saeculums) and with the benefits of technology, I think they will hang on to power as long as they can, and that will be much beyond age 63. They won't go without a fight.
And that will give them loads of time to make reactionary decisions (or to continue to), that we are left to deal with for a very long time.
Boomers will not simply disappear from public life just because Donald Trump leaves the scene. They will lose their ability to decide which boomer leadership shall prevail. That may be just as well. Younger generations may decide which sort of Boomers have the apices of power. That may ensure that people get Idealist virtues (vision, principle, and decisiveness) without the worst vices (ruthlessness, arrogance, and selfishness) in top leadership. The sort of person who exploits others while demanding to be seen as a benefactor will be a reject for both X and Millennial adults.
That will be a huge improvement. It might not be best to cast off the Boom generation altogether so long as it has people of great ability. Even if we get an X President (we already have had one), then there will be cabinet officers and of course leadership in Congress. Donald Trump is not the definitive Boomer; he is simply the worst sort of Idealist leader short of the Old Bolsheviks and Stalin.
Yup, a basket full of deplorable boomers we have.
1. Most of the Neocons. Neocons basically wrecked the Mideast. There's Shrub, Carl Rogue, Gina cat'o nine tails Haspell , Robert Kagan,William Kristol, etc.
2. What the US needs is a purge of all Neocons. I'd love to extradite every one of them to stand trial in the International Court of Justice for war crimes. If we fail to purge, the US will go down as the most hypocritical nation ever.
3. Hang 'em high.
hey ragnarok -- missed this one. Since everyone here seems pretty open-minded and even intelligent, I'm going to assume you are also. Based on that, I only want to know DO you think your post was anything but rhetoric and does it help anything?
I ask this based on the rather rough description of the S&H texts concerning people of a certain age group and bracket. Like....... isn't it things like what you expressed in your post that causes a Crisis to begin withand is this miming really necessary to corporealize anything except counter-productivity? seriously
and I am not judging. just take it from the nomad who came to life during Rosemary's Baby when my fetus could have been the devil and public institutions were created to let others have the choice whether I would exit the womb in solid or liquid form. That's why I like these authors, they truly hit things EXTREMELY spot on.
And yes, it has always felt like others receive benefits which we pay for and we never get them ourselves. That's maybe why we don't like the rhetoric because in the end it means nothing. Right now there is an administration that exists solely to roll back the Obama admin. With no path FORWARD, only a path to ERASE PROGRESS OVER IDEOLOGY. I don't know how that is different from rhetorical speakers even if they are the rhetoric opposite of that. You must see where I am coming from.
I'm a something 'cause nobody agrees where 1962 belongs... With Trump, I can be a missile crisis baby.
lol because I know you don't wanna hide under a desk anymore. I don't disagree with anything you have said. I would have said it once. Understanding the generational models has taught me something tho. Taught me that in order to survive and thrive now, none of that matters. I can conjure up names and boxes to categorize the sins of the ignorant or I can choose to work in a team setting to solve problems regardless of core ideology. That is what defines a High and to me, it seems reasonable. Others may not agree, however they EXIST. Compromise must be struck and those who do not want compromise will fall away dead eventually. They cannot exist in the new turning. Not that someone has come and rounded them up to the ovens but because their one-sided diatribe is too weak among those who do not care what anyone believes so long as the work gets done.
Boomers are too unchangeable. The books nailed that HARD. It's like "do you love the earth" or "do you want trickle down" well NO...... the people who will solve those problems won't be using that language to cooperate. It is too caustic. It will be object-oriented problem-solving instead of ideological triumph over some scarecrow demonization. The Boomers are too instilled with things like a Hitler figure or some fixed plot of land to bomb in order to solve a problem. It's not always so concise.
And while this, I can say with certainty the left/right paradigm is a lie and only leads to disaster and crisis. I think that is why so many people WANT to believe the worst of this crisis is yet to happen. Boomers have a sort of self-fulfilling (and self-loathing) prophetic mindset that things are only "finished" when there's a charred landscape of the dead in a foreign field... then we can all celebrate back here in the states like VJ-DAY and listen to the fireside chat tell us we have won something.