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Looking Toward The Next High
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(05-25-2018, 10:13 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(05-24-2018, 11:55 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-24-2018, 10:47 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(05-24-2018, 06:59 PM)TheNomad Wrote: So describe the continued Crisis as you see it.  Who is involved at all generational levels, what exactly will be the war of unconditional surrender, who fights in it, by what mandate do you see people sending millennials and artists into the woodchipper, etc.  Fighting as you describe it mean these people are going to sign themselves up and their protective parents are going to let encourage and support them.  Remember, Nomads are too old to be fighting this war, the one thing I learned about Heroes is they do not get sent down the drain under any circumstance. 

Artists are 18 right now if you keep the bracket at 2002.  Born after the beginning of Crisis, never knowing what it was like prior to the Crisis, coming to age IN the Crisis.

You have a lot of confidence in me as a prophet Smile

I have given some indications in my new book, but I still have to look it up. Here's one paragraph I wrote: 

So, in spite of its domestic conflicts, foreign affairs won't leave Americans alone in the 2020s. The war likely to break out at the end of 2020 will certainly demand attention. The Fall Equinox chart puts Mars right near the Descendant (house of war) in Washington DC. The USA might take an aggressive stance toward the troublemakers, but because it is consumed at home, it will not be able to put any swords behind its words. The chart indicates that Russia and West Africa (e.g. Ghana, Libya) will be targeted for these troubles. Then, a month after Mars in Aries turns direct in November, in square to Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto, a powerful solar eclipse on December 14 looms over the world. The month following the eclipse will be very dangerous. The chart shows that the Middle East (probably Syria), Russia, India, China, Korea and even Japan may get involved. Just like the phrase in the Bible, wars and rumors of wars could erupt in diverse places.


So, as Anthony has also said, in Dec./Jan.2021 it looks like a big war will break out. But the war cycle says the USA will mostly stay out of it. I didn't write much about 2025, except to say it will be in Asia, so I should take another look at that. Probably, whatever breaks out in 2021 in whatever places will likely still be at war in 2025, and will threaten USA interests, as perceived by the powers that be at the time.

I don't know I agree with what you said about Heroes/civics in general. They have always been willing soldiers. But it could be that in this case, the USA will go to war, but lots of heroes will resist or refuse to go. We live in the era following the great peace movement of the sixties. War is no longer so popular. So we'll see. The foreign war and the domestic battles could be linked.

I have a lot clearer handle on the domestic situation. The double rhythm theory has been propagated here by me, Chas Donald and others. I see it as alternating between predominantly foreign and domestic crises; the enemy without or the enemy within. Both elements appear, but one or the other is preeminent. Our 4T is a domestic one, predominantly. The cold civil war has been going on for decades now. People online may say that they don't subscribe to it, and yet politically the dominant trend is ever-tighter polarization. The reactionaries are fanatical, and the progressives are ever more energized and revved up. So the cold civil war could get hot. 

I think the only route to success is if by 2025-26, when it breaks out, the progressives have the government, and the reactionaries rebel. In the USA, a revolution is unlikely to succeed, so it's better if it's a reactionary one. I think that's how it will go down. I see a possible secession movement, and sporadic battles, over a 2-3 year period. The rebellion will be put down without as much trouble as during the civil war. The heroes and early artists will be willing soldiers on the progressive blue side, spurred on by blue boomer and Xer leaders as well as young millennial leaders, while in red states heroes led by Gen Xers will be aroused by the hatred and fears that have been passed down to them. Guns will be the trigger issue, along with taxes and racial hatreds and fears. Trump has aroused the fever and it will continue.

If the generation bracket is 2002, then artists are 16 now, not 18. I would put it one or two years later, but that's pretty close.

I see a positive outcome. The reforms will be secured, and they may go a lot farther than we can realistically expect now. Once a 4T energy is unleashed, it can go pretty far.

Oh!  So I was right you are approaching this from eschatological and religious dogma... or "prophecy".  I've said this is a mega indicator for people your age in sort of needing some apocalyptic showdown, Jack Van Impe style... and you even have the stars aligning for it!  How fun. 

WHAT is your book?  I will go through this more, there was a lot.

You can't discount the difference between left and right among people my age. That gives you a distorted picture. The difference in society today is mainly between left and right, not between generations, despite whatever people may say.

I don't refer to religious dogma of the Jack Van Impe style at all. My cyclic planetary research is based on discovering patterns of correlation. This research is essentially empirical. Scientists may say this is not causation, but astrology refers to causes that go beyond mechanical causation, which philosophy and science itself has cast doubt on. 

The right-wingers are interested in the Biblical prophecy of an apocalyptic type, but that's not me. Liberals and leftists are interested in progress, and some visionaries maybe see some kind of new age or radical utopia. I don't see the apocalyptic scenario ushering in a utopia in this 4T. I just envision what may happen based on the cyclic patterns, just like the generational cycle, and I also make use of data from that generation cycle and others, and the facts on the ground and in society. You can't ignore those facts and then attribute what I say to an apocalyptic scenario I supposedly believe in just because I'm a boomer.

http://philosopherswheel.com/book.htm

By the way, Pat Robertson was born in 1930 and Jack Van Impe in 1931. They are Silents.

Naw I am just messing with you mostly.  However, I don't have a distorted picture; while I would prefer to know and affiliate with those more of a "left" leaning, you are all the same (LOL).  Seriously..... all of you really do want your own individual or 50%-collective ideals to triumph over all else.  If you didn't care, that would make you different.  If you didn't have such immovable viewpoints and unchangeable ideology, then you would be something different.  I think we all know by now research is anything but empirical.  If that were true, people would be not be able to lead at the highest positions while saying and admitting freely they exist in an alternate universe that is full of the same research and data and numbers as OUR universe out here.  OUR universe, because I will offer you the benefit of doubt that at least on the important things you adhere to the reality most of us live in.  But even that isn't true.  ALMOST 50% OF PEOPLE EXIST IN THE OTHER UNIVERSE as proved in the last election. Same facts, different reality. It has always been that way, just now with the abundancy of phones/tablets/internet the phenomenon of FACT CHECKING has come into being. Even that doesn't help. Not even the FACTCHECKERS are worthy to provide provable and real information.

do u see what i am saying?

Oh and the apocalyptic thing, it goes back to how you were raised.  You were raised to believe you were the most unique snowflake that ever happened.  Therefore, everything you guys think is sort of scriptural.  Thus, your END should be no less blazing-across-the-night-sky as you always knew it would be: because that's what you deserve.  Van Impe lol but I used to be into that... so, I used him as example and making a joke simultaneously, doesn't always translate.  I am going to read your material maybe PM you and share mine.
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Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-21-2018, 04:53 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-21-2018, 07:34 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by beechnut79 - 05-22-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 04:31 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-22-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 04:46 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-22-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by beechnut79 - 05-25-2018, 02:05 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-25-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by tg63 - 05-22-2018, 11:24 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 12:55 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-22-2018, 07:10 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 10:25 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-23-2018, 05:58 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-23-2018, 07:49 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-23-2018, 08:19 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-24-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 04:56 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-24-2018, 05:10 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 06:46 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-22-2018, 10:37 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-22-2018, 11:56 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-23-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by tg63 - 05-23-2018, 11:44 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-23-2018, 02:08 PM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 02:38 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 11:55 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-25-2018, 08:18 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by beechnut79 - 05-25-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-25-2018, 08:34 PM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-26-2018, 01:28 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-25-2018, 05:36 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-25-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-26-2018, 09:53 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-26-2018, 09:39 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-26-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-31-2018, 07:20 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-31-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-27-2018, 05:05 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-27-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by pbrower2a - 05-28-2018, 05:43 AM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by Mikebert - 05-31-2018, 07:49 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-26-2018, 01:41 PM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-24-2018, 03:59 PM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-28-2018, 12:13 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-29-2018, 05:16 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by beechnut79 - 05-30-2018, 09:49 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 05-31-2018, 12:24 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by David Horn - 06-04-2018, 11:51 AM
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RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 06-02-2018, 11:27 PM
RE: Looking Toward The Next High - by TheNomad - 06-04-2018, 03:34 AM
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