(06-01-2018, 08:08 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(05-31-2018, 10:57 PM)TheNomad Wrote:(05-31-2018, 07:41 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Perhaps we are experiencing an unusually mild 4T?
I've been saying this a lot. The events of the Crisis IMO have happened. We had wars, we had the economic theft, we had massive upheaval with families and individuals losing everything and moving in with grandparents, etc. Some can't accept that it was "enough" to be the actual crisis. I say it was just about enough and if they want more, let them have it but leave me out
Oh and earlier I told a very personal story of ONE family who essentially mirrors Grapes of Wrath scenario of the Great Depression with an extended family in a loaded vehicle traveling to parts unknown just hoping to survive. Whether that actually happened to anyone posting here, I do not know. But it really happened to a lot of people. I've not called it GDII because I didn't want to be severe. But the early 21st century was truly a time of destitution, humiliation and national upheaval. I think we do not know the magnitude because media does not cover it. We know there is currently a homeless epidemic. But we never hear from the news WHY these people are homeless. Most of them lost everything in the crash and fell down hard. But no one talks about that. And there are homeless camps just as their were in GDI. Except they are not concentrated on the Washington Mall but scattered throughout every major city in America.
If someone brought them all together, the Mall would be quite full.
I don't see how more crisis can be avoided, whether we want it or not, because the forces that made the war on terror possible, and the great recession possible, are still in power. It is a question of who is in power, and the system they have put in place to maintain themselves in power. As long as that is not toppled somehow, the crisis will never end. Powers are toppled in 4Ts, not 1Ts.
I'm perplexed by the fact that no one seems to acknowledge 911 as any part of the crisis whatsoever. Why is that? I'm starting to think some in this forum simply maybe didn't experience the aftermath of it or simply do not understand the implications of all that happened because of that. Everyone seems to agree that 2008 and the financial ruins is the crisis and yet we're waiting for War the second part of a crisis. Or that the order of the events of the crisis are wrong in that there must be a financial woe and only after that some big war. However we had those two things within six or seven years of each other we had Wars going on the same time as we had the financial crisis.
What's going on with that? Every time I ask that question no one seems to answer.
I'll say again it is almost as if the wars and complications of the aftermath of the wars were not large enough for significant enough to be considered a crisis element. And for anyone who believes that I want to hear what you have to say. I want to hear people say that the 911 wars and cultural impact in the Homeland were not significant enough to be considered part of the crisis.