06-03-2018, 03:20 AM
(06-02-2018, 11:41 PM)TheNomad Wrote: You said: JFK was murdered by Oswald acting alone.
Judith Vary Baker. When you have read her entire book "Me & Lee" you have touched the void. JFK will soon be exposed for what it was. But we will follow the same pattern and not know about 911 until 2075 or some bullshit. After everyone involved is dead, the families white-washed and the guilty can no longer be punished. When Bush The First expires and Ladybird Johnson's estate no longer pays lawyers to suppress the truth, we will see more than you know. STILL, 70+ years after the fact. Imagine if we could have believed in 911 truth a few years ago when we could have identified the company which months before the "attacks" performed extensive work to the super-structure causing the beams to slice at proper angles so it would fall straight down - a controlled demolition. There are lots of facts ignored on lots of things.
We will never know what was going on in the murky mind of Lee Harvey Oswald, a man who could never form a wholesome bond with anything. He could not fit in in the USA, and he could not fit in in the USSR. If you want to claim that he was a KGB operative -- he was too untrustworthy for a high-risk, low-reward assassination. To claim that he was part of some right-wing plot to take down someone that Dallas-area participants in the right-wing lunatic fringe hated -- such was too risky for themselves for any involvement. As someone with no obvious moral certainties, he could go from one extreme to the other in his political views.
As reality proves, the Kennedy assassination was a demonic miracle. Had he not worn a back-brace to allow him a rigid posture, Kennedy would have been able to duck, saving his life.
Quote:Everyone who saw the buildings fall saw them fall straight down. That's only alternate reality to people who do not like facts. Buildings hit by large objects do not fall straight down nor do they burn up from jet fuel that ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF PHYSICS CANNOT EVEN BURN SUCH METAL.
The buildings pancaked. At 910C, structural iron loses most of its tensile strength, and any large mass above it can cause its easy collapse. Jet fuel burns at temperatures above 910C, allowing iron exposed by the removal of such insulation that it has to get hot enough to soften and buckle. Controlled demolition? Yes, there were plenty of explosions, most of them the result of water boiling and destroying its many containers from toilets to soft-drink machines to water coolers to supply and drainage pipes. The same principle that allows a terrorist to make a horrible weapon out of a pressure cooker operated on objects as small as unopened soft drink containers.
Quote:Reality? Alt Reality? I mean, does it matter anymore? We all choose to believe what we choose to believe.
No, we don't have to debate these things. It takes courage to believe you live in a world of lies and still function in it. "Be in the world but be not of it".
Not even mainstream science claims definitive truth in explaining most phenomena -- but if it isn't close enough, mainstream science is able to give a prediction of the reliability of a finding such as "Panacea 225 is shown to be safe and effective with a reliability of 95% or more". This said, mainstream science is more trustworthy than any other source of knowledge because of the rigors of the experimental method -- peer review, double-blind tests, and experimental controls. Science has its own ways of policing itself for incompetence, bias, and deceit as few other enterprises have.
I will take science over a gut feeling anytime.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.