Was 911 & the Cultural Aftermath/Change in National Mood Part of This Crisis Period?

[Eric the Green]

(09-23-2018, 03:31 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(09-23-2018, 08:55 AM)Marypoza Wrote: -- don't bet on it. Eric, those f-ing Dems are already moving 4ward to get Kavanaugh confirmed 

If this plays through, and the Dems let it happen, just to preserve their seats, then this gets ugly really fast.  Of course, the alternatives suck too.  Looking down the list, and assume one or more of the at-risk Dems or Pro-Choice Republicans grows a pair (or even one) and votes against then these are the possiblities:

1. Kavanaugh is approved but the GOP loses the Senate
   
2. Kavanaugh fails but the GOP retains the Senate
   
3. Kavanaugh is approved and the GOP retains the Senate anyway
   
4. Kavanaugh fails and the GOP loses the Senate.
   

I put them in the order of most to least likely.  1 is a push for the Dems, but may justify packing the Senate if they get that option.  If they don't, then the court is RW for the foreseeable future.  2 is a push in the other direction, but may convince DJT not to fire everyone in sight.  Of the four options, this is the one I have the least sense of where it leads.  3 is bad all the way; DJT fires everyone including Mueller.  Nothing good comes of this.  4 is highly unlikely, but it's dicey.  If the Dems get too high on their own juices, it can be WJC all over again … including the possibility of a second term for the Orange One.

One thing that might happen, is that Trump withdraws Kavanaugh. It doesn't seem to matter how lavishly he praises someone; it (s)he fails him in some way, whether (s)he fails in some way in the job, or fails to support him enough personally, Trump is usually willing to fire or drop that person. 

But he may still have time to nominate another candidate and get him or her approved, even in a lame duck session after which the Democrats take over, or before Jan.3 in any case. As of now, it's uncertain that the Democrats can take it over. Even if they do, and more options for blocking Trump will thereby happen, he would still when some Senate votes because the Democrats will still include some from red states.