Best Tunes from the 2T

[Eric the Green]

(10-24-2016, 11:13 PM)gabrielle Wrote:

(10-24-2016, 05:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Many guys today may forget that one of the greatest aspects of the Awakening was women's liberation, and simultaneously, the trend at least for a while for men to become less obsessively macho and adopt some of the positive traits of women. And sometimes 2T music reflected that. Posts by Rags, although I may agree with some of them, emphasize how often that feminine traits in music, and its less aggressive and blatantly overt assertiveness, charged with sexual and anger overtones, and more possessed of the sensitivity which was the primary virtue of The Awakening, are ignored or devalued even despite the Awakening-- especially by Generation Xers; even though I agree with some of their cultural choices among the Awakening's legacy. I like Led Zeppelin, Bad Company, Deep Purple, Jimi Hendrix and so on, but amid the emphasis on remembering the hard rock and punk styles, the more gentle and sensitive aspect is forgotten. That's one reason I posted this forgotten epic song (one among many others) that captures the actual spirit of The Awakening as few other songs do.

I don't think that's necessarily true.  You have a tendency to point out the tastes of specific (mostly male) individuals here in these forums and claim that as the general Gen X taste, while ignoring the opinions of other Gen Xers, particularly the female ones.  That's not very enlightened of you.

Ho hmmmm. I was speaking of guys here. Again, you forgot; I was responding to what Rags posted. So why argue with me?

You forget I am a follower of musical tastes and surveys and such; I know which 2T songs make it high in the lists now, and which ones have been forgotten.

Quote:I (and others) have given you many samples of 3T and Gen X music with feminine and gentle characteristics, and many with idealistic themes, so I don't think that aspect of the Awakening was ignored by Generation X.  Anyway, the aggressive masculine stuff can be fun and exciting--rock n roll, man!  (Didn't you guys used to say that?)

Fun? Some of it, for those who prefer. Mostly 2T rock for me is fun, because in the 3T the aggressive masculine stuff mostly lost its musical qualities, which is the "fun" I look for in music, even IF also macho and aggressive (like The Who, my favorite band). Because 3T hard rock IS the way it is, I don't think the interest in sensitivity was shown in it much at all. (and come on, folks, talk about obvious). Cynical survivalist and "oh whatever" Gen X attitudes and support in youth for conservative politics is not very sensitive either. (nor are Boomers very sensitive either, in later 3T times and nowadays; massive "sell-out" man!). But don't get me wrong, I welcome your contrary opinions and listen to them.

And I've given you credit when you posted stuff I like, so, so what?

(and thanks for pointing out that about Tomorrow Never Knows; didn't know)

Off hand I can't remember other female Gen Xers who have posted about music here. "Felix?" She was very hard to agree with in any case.

Quote:Also, I think punk rock was not so much about aggressive masculinity as it was about using sarcasm and perversity as a way to shock people out of their complacency and get them to think about things.  

I'll listen to that one later. But as for punk rock, I still want (musical) quality in my music; no excuses. But pop punk and/or post punk had some good stuff, I think (as you know).