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Neo-nationalism, Identitarians and the Alt-Right
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Neo-nationalism is a political ideology which has spread across the world in this Fourth Turning. I am quoting a Wikipedia article on Neo-nationalism. This ideology started in Putin's Russia and China and has spread in the last decade to about everywhere in the world essentially. It is a lot like Fascism in the 1930's expect usually considerably milder, in formerly Liberal Democratic countries there has been a slide back to authoritarianism. I am not sure if they will be like the Nazis of the Last Fourth Turning, it could be given early last decade I thought the Fourth Turning would centering on how to civilize globalization and the need for more globalization to deal with the challenge of man-made climate change.
 
Quote:Neo-nationalism or new nationalism is a type of nationalism that rose in the mid-2010s in Europe and North America and to some degree in other regions. It is associated with several positions, such as right-wing populism, anti-globalization, nativism,  protectionism, opposition to immigration, opposition to Islam and Muslims and Euroscepticism where applicable. According to one scholar, "nationalist resistance to global liberalism turned out to be the most influential force in Western politics" in 2016.Particularly notable expressions of new nationalism include the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum and the election of Donald Trump as the 45th President of the United States.
 
Quote:Writing for Politico, Michael Hirsh described new nationalism as "a bitter populist rejection of the status quo that global elites have imposed on the international system since the Cold War ended, and which lower-income voters have decided—understandably—is unfair." Michael Brendan Dougherty wrote in The Week that new nationalism is a "broad nativist revolt" against post-Cold War politics long "characterized by an orthodoxy of free trade, nurturing the service economy, neoliberal trading arrangements, and liberalized immigration policies."
 
The Economist wrote in November 2016 that "new nationalists are riding high on promises to close borders and restore societies to a past homogeneity." Clarence Page wrote in the Las Vegas Sun that "a new neo-tribal nationalism has boiled up in European politics and to a lesser degree in the United States since the global economic meltdown of 2008," and Ryan Cooper in The Week and researchers with the Centre for Economic Policy Research have linked 21st-century right-wing populism to the Great Recession. According to Harvard political theorist Yascha Mounk, "economic stagnation among lower- and middle-class whites [has been] a main driver for nationalism's rise around the globe." According to religion scholar Mark L. Movesian, new nationalism "sets the nation-state against supranational, liberal regimes like the EU or NAFTA, and local customs and traditions, including religious traditions, against alien, outside trends."
 
David Brog and Yoram Hazony wrote in National Review that some conservatives view the new nationalism associated with Brexit and Donald Trump as a betrayal of conservative ideology while they see it as a "return". According to conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg, the nationalism associated with Trump is "really little more than a brand name for generic white identity politics."
 
Writing for The Week, Damon Linker called the idea of neo-nationalism being racist "nonsense" and went on to say that "the tendency of progressives to describe it as nothing but 'racism, Islamophobia, and xenophobia'—is the desire to delegitimize any particularistic attachment or form of solidarity, be it national, linguistic, religious, territorial, or ethnic."
 
Regarding new nationalism, The Economist said that "Mr Trump needs to realise that his policies will unfold in the context of other countries’ jealous nationalism," and called nationalism itself a "slippery concept" that is "easy to manipulate". They also repeatedly contrasted ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism and implied new nationalism could become "angry" and difficult to control, citing Chinese nationalism as an example.
 
I don't believe this ideology is going to win out in the Fourth Turning. Because the second global financial crisis is coming, which is predicted globally to be as bad as the Great Depression was. n economic collapse in both China and Russia, which will result in political revolutions which will bring Liberal Democratic regimes into power. This global financial crisis will need a global approach to solve it and the Neo-Nationalists have only emerged, because the Left did not develop an ideology during the Global Financial Crisis that would have 'tamed globalization' so that it benefits the people rather than the big corporations. Also, there is the need for a global approach to the challenge of climate change which the Neo-Nationalists who are inclined towards being skeptical to man-made climate change are also at a strong disadvantage.
 
Since the neo-nationalists who reject globalism, just don't have any solutions to this challenge. Also, the internet will undermine any neo-nationalist authoritarian regimes that come to power. An old fourth turning forum user who I chatted to on Facebook said at China's Great Firewall can be circumvented quite easily. Not to mention the neo-nationalists are going to be blamed most likely for this economic collapse. A McCarthyite sort of purge against anybody who is remotely 'nationalist' might very well occur. There are signs of that beginning to occur with social media de-platforming of people seen as racist, sexist, homophobic and trans-phobic. Something Donald Trump has complained about, because a lot of die-hard supporters have been de-platformed.

 The way I see it that the alt-left will emerge that will support an ideology known at Alter-globalization. The British Labour Party under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, along with some 'far-left' parties in Europe are beginning to develop this 'alt-left' ideology. My prediction it will emerge somewhere in the Anglosphere hard to know at this stage.
 Australia and New Zealand (yay) could very be where such an ideology could get started. Both countries have very high percentages of their populations who were born overseas, and neo-nationalism's appeal is likely at its weakest anywhere in the world.  In Australia nearly 30% of the population were born overseas and half the population have at least one parent born overseas. In New Zealand the percentage of people born overseas is 20%.
 
There is also the fact both countries since the 1980’s transformed from high protectionist to highly free trade-based economies and protectionism does not have very much electoral appeal in either country. Protectionism in the bigger economies of the United States and the European Union have more electoral appeal.
 
I believe this wave of Neo-Nationalism will last another 5 years and then recede in the last five years of the Fourth Turning which will be around 2028. Therefore; people buckle up, it is going to one hell of a ride, although given a massive economic crash being predicted the Alt-Right racial identitarians could experience a massive rise in support which makes a McCarthy style purge of anybody who is Ethnic identitarians very possible. I believe the Millennial's will more strongly identify as more 'Global Citizens' as opposed to just solely being members of a particular nation. Indeed the whole identitarian , neo-nationalist and alt-right movements have been born out of a concern that national and ethnicity identities are under threat from globalization.

Although given the Middle East has just started it's Fourth Turning which is predicted to one hell of a battle between Islamists and Secularists. A possible final battle of the 'War on Terror' or more appropriately the 'War on Islamism' will probably occur during this Fourth Turning or in the first half of the First Turning. Islamists who are Islamic identarians could be subject to this McCarthyite purge as well.
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/10-...86481.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alter-globalization
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Neo-nationalism, Identitarians and the Alt-Right - by Teejay - 10-09-2018, 04:31 AM

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