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The Middle Eastern question
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(01-27-2017, 07:51 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(12-31-2016, 08:56 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(12-31-2016, 03:51 AM)Galen Wrote:
(12-30-2016, 05:53 PM)Mikebert Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 10:37 AM)Galen Wrote: So far Russia seems to be more effective at eradicating ISIS.  Not really surprising given their history with Muslims.

How so?  Aleppo wasn't ISIS held. So what exactly has Russia done to eradicate ISIS?

As I recall it was held by Al Nusra which split off from ISIS.  I doubt they were really much better than ISIS or that they had really separated from them.  What ever you might say about Assad he did protect many religious minorities such as Christians from the Muslim majority.  Until the war his body count was actually very low.

Its a bit like Saddam Hussein, bad as he was the alternative turned out to be worse.  This would seem to be the case with Assad.

So by your measure, Syria is no-win. What would you propose?  Other than the Kurds, we have no real friends in the area -- including the current regime in Turkey. 

Fish or cut bait?
I wouldn't propose to cut bait that's for sure. We know what happened when we tried to cut bait in Iraq. We do what we are doing now and allow Russian to do what it is doing as well. You need to emotionally/politically separate yourself from Vietnam and move your mindset and your way of thinking towards heavily defeating World War II Nazi Germany. It's got to be done. I've been trying to tell you for years that isn't another Vietnam scenario, we can't pullout like we did in Vietnam be OK because their stated goal is to kill/destroy us.
Update :  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/wh...syria.html

Looks like Trump has seen the light.   Out we go because:

1. Stay and piss off the Turks

or.

2. Leave and hopefully keep Turkey in NATO.

Sorry, there are no other options, you have to pick.  I knew this a long time ago.  Turkey despises the Kurds, so if we help the Kurds, then Turkey'll most likely tell NATO to take a hike and be a Putin bro. I just love it when stupid Neocons paint themselves into these sorts of corners.  Sorry, this is a typical Vietnam situation.  Due to nukies, there can be no more WWII situations anymore. 


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The Middle Eastern question - by MillsT_98 - 05-10-2016, 11:54 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-11-2016, 01:23 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 05-11-2016, 02:16 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Mikebert - 05-15-2016, 03:52 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by pbrower2a - 05-11-2016, 08:40 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-12-2016, 09:12 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 05-12-2016, 03:52 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-12-2016, 07:40 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 05-13-2016, 03:48 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 05-14-2016, 05:01 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 05-13-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 10:34 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 12:29 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by radind - 05-14-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 05-14-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 09:48 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Mikebert - 05-15-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-15-2016, 05:22 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Kinser79 - 05-15-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by TnT - 05-20-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Anthony '58 - 05-23-2016, 08:38 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by pbrower2a - 12-20-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by tg63 - 12-19-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by pbrower2a - 12-23-2016, 02:57 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 12-23-2016, 03:52 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by pbrower2a - 12-23-2016, 10:37 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Mikebert - 12-30-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 12-31-2016, 03:51 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by David Horn - 12-31-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-31-2016, 05:22 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Warren Dew - 01-27-2017, 05:48 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-27-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Classic-Xer - 01-27-2017, 08:11 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-22-2019, 11:39 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Galen - 01-01-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Classic-Xer - 01-27-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 12-21-2018, 08:24 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Warren Dew - 12-30-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by David Horn - 12-31-2016, 08:45 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-27-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-27-2017, 09:05 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-14-2019, 11:03 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-15-2019, 12:13 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-23-2019, 12:15 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-15-2019, 12:15 AM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by David Horn - 01-18-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by David Horn - 01-21-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by David Horn - 01-22-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Ragnarök_62 - 01-22-2019, 11:42 PM
RE: The Middle Eastern question - by Hintergrund - 02-06-2019, 11:58 AM

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