Cycles of the 4T

[Eric the Green]

(11-21-2016, 10:35 AM)2Legit2Quit Wrote:

(11-14-2016, 11:41 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 05:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 04:15 PM)Arkarch Wrote: A few years back on the old forums, I proposed a thought about larger cycles than the four generation saeculum to help describe the nature of 4T conflicts.  Perhaps its a theory done before; I am just a casual student of generational theory.  The consideration is that there are pendulums alternating between hot and cold war, internal and external conflicts.  I am not talking about the Soviet-US Cold war which may be part of another cycle.

Current Crisis here in US - Internal Cold War
World War 2 - External Hot War
American Civil War - Internal Hot War
Revolutionary War - External Cold War (if viewed as a proxy battle between England and France)
Glorious Revolution - Internal Cold War (yes there were some battles)
Armada Crisis - External Hot War (England and Spain)
War of the Roses - Internal Hot War (between the houses)

Thats about all I have got into it.

It's a good idea. My earlier proposal, if the Left was to increase its power by the 2020s, was a minor rebellion by the right wing gun totin' anti-taxers that would be put down within a year or two. Not fully cold, but colder than the civil war. Now it looks like American voters may be hooked on Reaganomics forever, so the cold internal war may amount to protests like we see now that are easily shot down and people on the left killed or jailed, as a banana republic is established in full by the time of the 1T.

Trump isn't doing Reaganomics. Alt-Right /= Reagan. Not even close.

Trump isn't even close to Reagan. Trump isn't even a Republican. 

Clinton is very close to Reagan, but Trump is more like a Molotov cocktail.

It's amazing that people (including the above two posters) could get that so completely wrong. And we'll be paying for this huge mistake for centuries. You got fooled, Mr. Legit. Very badly.

The alt-right and the Reagan right have Reaganomics in common. Trumponomics and Reaganomics have trickle-down, free market, libertarian economics in common. And especially where it hurts the most-- the environment we depend on for life, and the species we have no right to kill off, but are doing it. Hillary Clinton is poles apart from Reagan, but Trump is very much on the same team. Removing regulations will hurt the common man economically, very badly. Allow business to do what it wants, and we get hurt, very badly. Trump promises to remove two regulations for every one created. He is closing down the EPA, and other organizations that protect our health from bad products and working conditions. He is lowering taxes on the rich enormously, so they get even more wealth and power. This is the purest Reagan. Hillary would have done the opposite. And Hillary would have stopped the TPP too. And Trump isn't going to succeed in throwing out NAFTA.

If you can't see the target, you can't hit it. If you don't see that Trump is unleashing a war on the environment, and on the economic well-being of all of us, you can't see the target at all. Trump threw a molotov cocktail at the people, not the Establishment. He IS the Establishment; Hillary Clinton is NOT.

The enemy is entirely within. Internal Cold War. Thanks to people who mistook Clinton for Reagan, and voted in Trump, it's going to get much worse now. Let's hope it stays "cold," at least until Sessions starts shooting us down for speaking out. People who can't see what Assad did to his people, and blame it on the US, probably won't be able to see what Trump does to us. Living under a dictator is no fun. As Trump would say, "believe me!"

And a reminder, that Trump has no mandate. His margin in the swing states was small, and his losing margin in the country is still growing.