(01-26-2017, 10:08 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(01-26-2017, 07:50 AM)Odin Wrote:(01-26-2017, 05:40 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(01-25-2017, 05:15 PM)Odin Wrote:(01-25-2017, 04:30 PM)Galen Wrote: Not really, because I consider that to be a worst case scenario which you should have picked up from the language I used. I really do consider unwinding Obozo's idiocy, you probably think of it as a legacy, to be a very worthwhile goal.
If you were really a Libertarian, as opposed to merely an edgy contrarian who likes "sticking it to the libtards", you would be siding with us to defend Liberalism (in the broad sense) and Liberal Democracy against Trump and the Alt-Right.
"Liberal Democracy", as in the UK Liberal Democrat party, is a fusion of two largely incompatible platforms for political convenience. The two platforms came from the former "Liberal" party, which was essentially what we call libertarian in the US, and the former Social Democrat party, which was a socialist party with an economic platform incompatible with and opposed to liberalism in the broad sense.
Supposed "liberals" - in the narrow US sense - espouse the socialism without the liberalism. There's every reason for actual libertarians to be happy with their defeat.
You are showing your ignorance here. Liberal democracy has nothing to do with any particular political party.
Capitalization matters. If you say "Liberal Democracy", it implies association with the proper noun. You should have used "liberal democracy" if that was what you meant. Same with "Libertarian" and "libertarian", "Republican" and "republican", etc.
-- exactly. I am a democrat, but not a Dem, who keep getting more & more un-democratic as the years go by.
that's why l like Bernie. He's a democrat (dispite the l behind his last name) an old school Dem, he reminds me of the Dem pols from when l was growing up in the 60s & 70s
my 2 yr old Niece/yr old Nephew 2020