03-18-2020, 04:29 PM
(03-18-2020, 04:09 PM)Dewdman42 Wrote: Also, I'm sure this will cause you and others to blow a gasket when I say this, but if anything women are MORE responsible for screwing around. In western society, women have always been given the last say regarding how and when to have sex and whom to have sex with. Men on the other hand are subject to constantly suppressing their nature biological urges in order to conform to that, which is good, don't get me wrong, but still, it is very much women that are in the driver's seat of that interaction, not men... (aside from Rape of course, which is a separate and isolated situation that should be considered differently then the mass majority).
The consequences have been more severe for the woman (or girl, in case not an adult). She endures the pregnancy if there is one, and she gets to have the regrets in case she has an abortion, keeps the child only to raise it in abject poverty, or puts the child up for adoption. Abortion is rightly a moral issue and not one for the State to decide on her supposed behalf.
If she does choose an abortion, then let it be safe and legal. This will be a tough philosophical decision almost invariably by someone who does not fully understand the realities of her choice.
Quote:Women are the ones that control when and how sex will occur, and in what manner. At any moment they are legally empowered to say "no stop". If they choose to continue and they get pregnant, they are further empowered to have an abortion and escape any moral obligation that has traditionally been placed on them by getting pregnant. They have total and complete power over the situation. It is their choice. Men are the ones being controlled, even prior to sex! After getting pregnant, women continue to be in control with the complete choice.
Not if she changes her mind after sex is initiated. She suddenly realizes that her fling is with a brute, a pervert, or a creep. What then does she do?
Quote:With choice comes responsibility. This is not a responsibility that women today wish to acknowledge or accept, because for centuries it has all been different. But now, they have options. Well, women have options. Men have none. That is why men are increasingly backing away from dating, courtship and marriage....all of that represents enslavement of men...and if they make someone pregnant in a moment of passion, they are SOL with no resource or options whatsoever but do as the woman demands.
No fooling. Those who would outlaw abortion have not thought it through themselves. The debate on abortion is full of righteous indignation to a far greater extent than of philosophical inquiry. Women in similar circumstances with the same choice could make three different, stark choices.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.