03-05-2017, 10:44 PM
(03-05-2017, 10:09 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: There was no truth to those emails. They were snips taken out of context, distortions, and outright lies. The Russians and Trump supporters were the originators of "fake news," a slogan that the 1984 Drump has appropriated. Those who investigated leave no doubt that the Russians hacked Podesta's emails. To say otherwise at this point is right-wing propaganda and nothing more. There was nothing illegal going on with Hillary, and the only classified emails on her server were congratulations to African officials. What nonsense, compared to the rampant corruption of Trump and all his minions and appointees. Fact checkers proved that Hillary was one of the most honest candidates, and Trump by far the least honest. Trump does nothing but lie and scream. Those who supported him are responsible for putting a juvenile reactionary in charge of what was a viable democracy. Shame on you bobc for believing all these big lies.
The emails were true. Several Democratic party insiders resigned after specific information about them was released, including rigging the game against Bernie Sanders in the primaries.
There was only fake news saying Russia hacked the emails. The best information showed several parties got those emails with password as password, but that it was an insider, probably Seth Rich, who leaked it. He was later killed in a robbery where no money was taken.
The level of corruption under the Clintons was reaching incredible levels, and now, we the American people, have the chance to drain the swamp.
I'm assuming that you support "progressive" causes. How is corruption, the Clinton foundation bribery machine, mysterious deaths, support of trade agreements made in secret, dirty tricks against the progressive candidate in 2016, helping these causes.
The best way for you to, in the long run, help your causes, would be to support the sweeping away of corruption, shadow government of the intelligence agencies, secret trade deals, over expansion of Federal power, over regulation, dividing the US into hostile interest groups each opposed to each other.
Then, afterward honest debates between socialism versus free market, nationalism versus one worldism, etc., can occur again.
If you are the same Eric I remember in much earlier iterations of this board you were essentially a hippie that believed in spiritualism and ideals from the 1960's. Your current simplisitic assertions of truth and lies, good and evil, just don't do justice to the types of arguments you made 15 or 20 years ago.