(02-27-2017, 12:47 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(02-27-2017, 12:34 PM)David Horn Wrote:(02-27-2017, 11:46 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Obama's problem was he poked a few too many Red hornets' nests. The worst one was poking gun owners and those who support gun owners. He also poked a few other ones that were bound to get the Red factions up in arms.
Don't assume this is a dead issue. If the 2nd Amendment folks get sideways with law enforcement, and a gun battle ensues, that may be the trigger that finally turns the mildly anti-gun crowd as vehement as the pro-gun crowd.
I dunno, Dave, lotsa militia groups have done that, and nothing has happened. Did the murder of cops by black militants (well, mostly just random losers) turn you against BLM?
At the end of the day the 2nd Amendment is part of the Constitution, with centuries of case law behind it, and the only way to really get the restrictions you seek is with a constitutional amendment.
Which, you know, you don't really have the votes for. Sorry.
Don't be too smug. This is exactly what happened to create the whole gun control movement. Today conservatives are pro-gun because gun enthusiasts are overwhelmingly white. Back in the 1960's most white gun enthusiasts were hunters, good folks like the guys I work with. But there were some gun enthusiasts who were more interested in using guns against people (as protection). These enthusiasts were black, which scared the shit out of white folks who pressed for gun control. Charles Manson did not come up with Helter Skelter ab nihilio.
Later on as the non-violent ethos of MLK became enshrined with righteousness and the "by any means necessary" ethos of Malcolm X was discredited, non-criminal blacks eschewed guns and white activists picked up on them. And now cavorting with guns like the Panthers did is A-OK as long as you are a right-thinking white man.