Wheels within wheels.

[Eric the Green]

(12-22-2018, 09:11 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: The next saeculum's ideological war could be Transhumanism/Extropianism vs Naturalism.

That could be so, in some sense. I think the next prophets will be naturalists, and I base this partly on the astrological cycles as well as my own ideals. I don't think there will be a violent 4T physical ideological war over this. I think there is a way to accomodate both tech advances and the personal/spiritual advances and ancient philosophy revivals. But in the next 2T, in the late 2040s and 2050s, a revival of a spiritual view of life and of Nature as alive and not mechanical will counteract and moderate the materialist/physicalist views that transhumanists such as yourself have expressed. And this could be a generation gap between millennial civics and alpha-wave prophets. There will be protests against virtual reality, and to that extent an ideological war, just like the generation gap and ideological wars of the late 1960s.

Which one will ultimately become dominant is an open question. Our age of civilization as I see it, based again on some astrological insight into the 500-year civilization cycle and its chart, as well as historical perspective, tends to lean materialist. So it's quite possible that, just as in our 4T today, a lot of the protest and spiritual enlightenment of the 2T in the 2040s and 50s could swing back to the tech-physicalism that civic millennials such as yourself adhere to by the time of the next 4T at the turn of the 22nd century. But I don't see that as resulting in a physical war.