Has the regeneracy arrived?

[Marypoza]

(02-15-2020, 01:05 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: It's also a question of whether, if Bernie isn't nominated and many of his supporters bolt in 2020, will we survive as a country? 4 more years of Trump will be a major obstacle to this. The Republican Party is the one that needs to die. Like, yesterday.

If Bernie IS nominated, and the moderates bolt as a result, that could also endanger the Republic. The Dems need to be united against a transcendent evil this time. The question is whether they will be. If the country dies, I'm not sure it matters which party dies.

Sanders is the regeneracy candidate. If the Dems don't choose him, they may lose anyway, because the other candidates aren't up to the job of beating Trump, let alone setting a new course for the country. Bernie can do both, although "can" does not equal "will."

-- if Bernie wins the nomination those selfidentifying as Dems will vote 4 him. They're Vote Blue No Matter Who. It's the Berniecrats- ppl who r only voting Dem bcuz of Bernie- who will bolt.. They were suckerpunched in 2016- they expected the Dems 2 run honest primaries & not cheat- so their response was mixed: some voted Green, others actually voted 4 the Donald, but most stayed home since they no longer had a dog in that fight. This time around the Berniecrats r wary. They see Bloomberg trying 2 buy the election. They see Buttcheat trying to steal it with technology. They're with their guy all the way 2 the Convention but they're also considering plan Bs. I know. I belong 2 several Bernie groups & a few Tulsi groups. Some of these ppl say they will write their candidate in, but many of them r eyeballing the Greens as a fallback. As l said b4, if they vote Green as a block & get their own progressive party. That could be the beginning if the end 4 the Dems if the new progressive party starts attracting progressive Dems 2 it. All that will be left would be blue dogs
Otoh, the Dems could survive as the Blue Dog party bcuz the repugs r going off the rails. I haven't realized until l wrote that brief summary of political parties above what u were saying about this 4T resembling the Civil War 4T. The Know Nothings infiltrated the Whigs, sending them off the rails. The Tea Partiers & other wingnutz r doing the same thing 2 the repugs, causing the moderates 2 invade the Democratic party , shifting it 2 the right, alienating long time old school Dems & younger ppl in general. These ppl will come 2gether & form a progressive party.2 counter the Blue Dog Dem party.
 Either way the country will survive the Donald, it will just come out worse 4 wear if he gets another 4 years. By 2024 the country should be ripe 4 a progressive (I think we already r, but anyhow) & while Bernie would probably be 2 old 2 run again, he has surrogates. Jeff Merkeley from OR comes 2 mind. The Jacobin Mag did a write up on Tammy Baldwin from WI recently. She sounds like a good successor 2 Bernie. Then there's always my homeboy Sherrod if we can get that clown out of the Governor's Mansion in 2022. Nina Turner is also a possiblity if she can remain relevant 4 the next few years. She has been making political waves this year & would would make a gr8 successor 2 Bernie since she is a dyed in the wool Berniecrat.
So we'll just have 2 see how this all rolls