Has the regeneracy arrived?

[Bob Butler 54]

(05-15-2016, 01:21 PM)Odin Wrote: I think the difference between this 4T and the last is that this 4T is just as much a political crisis  (like in the Civil War 4T) as it is an economic crisis, and because the edge of the economic crisis was taken off by swift action by governments there is not the same urgent fear of "if we don't go along and play nice the people are going to go Fascist or Communist and have us hanging from lampposts".

I have no problem with that observation.  My feeling is that the big changes that came with FDR's Hundred Days were only possible because lots of people knew that the next team at bat after FDR would be the communists.  McCarthy found so many former members of the Communist Party in the 1950s because a lot of people were just that fed up with the democratic / capitalist status quo.

Still, to me, the late 3T is the time when extremists are saying extreme things, and the terrorists are staging violent events intended to create action.  The regeneracy is the point when selected extreme plans are put into action, and if there is a military element the terrorists don't need to provoke action as the troops are mobilized and marching.  Thus, Harper's Ferry would be a late and major catalyst that brought things to the edge, while Fort Sumter was a trigger that drove things off the edge.  Somewhere between those two there was a regeneracy, with both North and South committing themselves to drastic action.  I see room for sincere disagreement between the two.

To me, today, as we have multiple extremists pushing conflicting plans, and there is no united push to implement anything, we're still 3T.  Yes, it's political.  No, the transformation has not been committed to.  No, nothing has been implemented yet.

Still, it's not clear to me that everyone has agreed on a common definition of 'regeneracy', or 'Grey Champion'.  If one defines 'regeneracy' as "there are extremists ruling around saying extreme stuff" and 'Grey Champion' as meaning "an extremist who says extreme stuff" one can state another opinion.  I just prefer stricter benchmarks.