The Maelstrom of Violence

[Kinser79]

(09-14-2017, 09:42 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: If the Alt Right and Antifa want to duke it out, I might call the police slowly.  Neither are my favorite people.  However, many of both seem to be seeking out verbal ugliness and violence.  Let them have joy of one another.

But the Alt Right and allies want to be ugly to everyone.  That I don't want.  If that means you don't think you have free speech, so be it.  Your delusion, not mine.  Negative rights never guaranteed a right to harm.  You think this a fine exception to a general rule, while I don't.

Any negative right implies an organization that prevents it from being taken away.  Any negative right that can be abused, that its exercise can cause harm, needs somebody to enforce it.  Some think this is a major reason why "Governments were instituted among Men."  Why is this one special?  Are you suddenly an all out anarchist?

Bob, I'm starting to wonder what you're smoking and where I can get some.

1.  I for one do not want the left or the right duking it out in the streets--as for calling the police, feel free to.  But in Blue Cities it seems there are stand down orders from the political leadership so it always devolves into a riot.

2.  I disagree with you on your negative rights position.  This concept is really simple, so simple it is actually beyond most people really.  Either one has the right to say whatever the fuck they want, not including incitement, or slander/libel or they do not.  It is a binary a hard binary it is either on or off.

If the price of freedom is speech is that someone gets their fee fees hurt so be it.  Life is tough, get a helmet.

3. I wouldn't say that the first amendment is special.  I am also pretty partial to the second too.  The kid found me a nifty tee-shirt about it.


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