Fighting The Fourth Reich

[Kinser79]

(08-18-2017, 09:58 AM)noway2 Wrote:

(08-18-2017, 06:55 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Not only that any Reich formation would have to take place in Germany rather than the US or Russia.  Otherwise using the "reich" label even for propaganda purposes becomes absurd.

Reich simply means realm and was meant to embody the term nation as meaning people who share common heritage, values, and customs.  This is also a large part of what is wrong with the US today, it is no longer a cohesive body of peoples who share common values or identity of what it means to be American.  It is why I believe that a breakup and balkanization is both ultimately inevitable and about the only way to possibly short circuit the cycle and prevent the violence that is certainly coming that will likely result in a breakup anyway.

Things get a little messier today with the mixed geography.  As I was discussing with a coworker yesterday, the (college) town we work in is surrounded by a large part of the state that would like to see this area excised  from the state.  Following the breakup there would naturally be a period of migrations as people gravitate towards the regions that share their 'national' identity, just like there was during the so called reconstruction period.

In principle I agree.  However, I'm pointing out the absurdity of calling any attempt to establish ethnic or national homelands in the US a reich, much less a fourth one is absurd.  The name "Third Reich" is directly the result of in Germany there were three distinct imperial periods.  The Holy Roman Empire (or first riech), the German Empire of the Kaisers (or second reich) and of course Nazi Germany (or third reich).

If we were speaking of the US specifically it would be more suitable to use the English word nation or republic or state rather than reich, much less a fourth one.