Fighting The Fourth Reich

[Kinser79]

(08-30-2017, 04:31 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I'm coming to see wealth inequality as indication of the the country still has a reserve.  If we ever really decide to do anything, a means exists to do it.  I care far more about there being a minimum floor for things like food, shelter and medical care than the few wanting to build uber yachts.    However, with the economy frequently being optimized for Wall Street and Easy Street, you have to hope you can release Main Street when the time comes.

If we assume that by Main Street, what you mean is your average work-a-day American person of the proletariat then the best way to insure that they have a minimum standard of living is to ensure that they have jobs to provide that for them. Welfare has never lifted anyone out of poverty, it maintains them there. As such we have to use two different large policy direction.

First is to structure international trade to promote Americans making things and buying things made in America. Bringing money in and keeping the money here circulating, in other words.

Second to limit the import of new labor. Importing low wage unskilled labor depresses wages for the lower income/skill groups, blacks in particular. Importing lower wage skilled labor depresses domestically educated citizens. As I've said on the old forum before there isn't a shortage of STEM field graduates in this country, rather there is a shortage of them willing to accept 30K/year (cause they have student loans to pay off among other things).

Adopting the second policy position will cause a gradual rise in pay through labor constriction, it also helps developing countries as they won't suffer brain drain as badly.

Quote:In the same way, much of the alt right just wants to be uncivil to certain minority groups.

There is no evidence that this is the case.

 

Quote: I personally have no sympathy with that.  There has been since Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr's time a legal concept that negative rights to not protect the ability to harm others.  Thus, you don't have a right to cry 'fire' in a crowded theory, and your right to swing you fist around ends where my nose begins.  Old old principles.  This very simple concept seems to be missed by many on the alt right.  If they are systematically denying members of a certain subculture access, if they thank being cruel is harmless fun protected by the Constitution, they just aren't aware of where negative rights end.

Ultimately it doesn't matter. If the Left wins there won't be any free speech at all. I like Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. am convinced the only limitations on free speech should be slander, libel and incitement (to riot or to violence or panic). Apart from that free speech is sacrosanct. Any attempt to restrict it past those common sense limitations is distinctly anti-American.

I will go further, if there are in fact positive rights in the Bill of Rights as it seems the ACA has opened the door for then I would say that it applies to the First and Second amendments just as much as any dubious right to health care. As such I demand that YouTube and etc provide me with a channel to spout off my nonsense, and that the federal government buy me an AR-15 (cause you can't have too many). I think the laundry room is still lacking a gun