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50 dead in Orlando gay nightclub shooting
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(06-22-2016, 08:04 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(06-22-2016, 01:18 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(06-21-2016, 07:40 AM)Anthony Wrote: Problem: A radical Islamist kills 50 gay Americans with an AR-15.

Knee-jerk radical's solution: Ban AR-15s.

Fundamentalist bigot's solution: Ban gays.

Common-sense solution: Ban radical Islamists!

Common sense solution: ban AR-15s etc.!
Common sense solution: protect ourselves against terrorists
Problems: prejudice and hatred toward gays and muslims, etc.
Problem: 1st Generation radical Islamist crackpot decides to kill any Americans with a gun. Rags does not use labels, because if you're a legal citizen, you're an American regardless of assorted stupid SJW tags. Current immigration needs to be like it was for my great grand parents within limits. 

1. Start cracking down on employers for hiring illegal aliens.
2. Use drones to harden border security.
3. After current problem of illegal immigration is fixed, then do the path to citizenship thing because shipping back 11 million of whatever illegal aliens is pretty much not doable.
It was an attack on gays and hispanics. So the SJW labels remain essential.

The crackdowns probably won't work. Big business, small business, contractors and farmers need the only folks who do the work.

Drones kill the innocent. Imposing the death penalty for illegal immigration is nothing but terrorism.

We need a path to citizenship NOW, not "when immigration is under control." It's already under control, and immigration reform is part of the solution to illegal immigration, not something to be done "afterward." That's Rubio talking, not the Democrats. The Democrats are the ones who make sense.

Quote:The answer is simpler. 

US out of Middle East.

Bans DO NOT WORK.  The War On Drugs is an abject failure.

Needed solution. Go beyond simple slogans like "bans don't work; war on drugs abject failure" Two different things entirely. Bans can work.

Go beyond simple slogans like "US out of Middle East." Ain't gonna happen (unfortunately!). We have created the mess; we must help to clean it up. And now it's worse than ever. Not only are Syrians on the run from their tyrant, and coming to The West, giving The Donald an excuse to stir up entirely-unrelated fears, but Israel is becoming a tyranny under the right wing, ditching human rights for Israelis and Arabs alike, out of their own unfounded fears. And the USA is too afraid politically or religiously to let the Israelis go on their own, and to stop supporting their terror and tyranny.

So, we're stuck. We can't let go of one tyrant (Israel), we let in another due to our own unnecessary intervention (The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria/The Levant), and a third is resulting in a horrific, deadly genocide we could-have but failed to help prevent (Assad/the former country of Syria). So, we're stuck.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: 50 dead in Orlando gay nightclub shooting - by Eric the Green - 06-22-2016, 11:04 AM

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