The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(11-17-2017, 01:57 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-16-2017, 09:44 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: For the first, you can assume that I write at a college level and can read at a master's or doctoral level. For me, reading such material is something of a treat. Of course there are highly-technical materials

For the second, some people just never learn the basic mechanics of writing. Some people try to add clever touches to their banal writing in an effort to look brilliant; it does not work.  

For the third, one needs a powerful justification to write and offer difficult material to others to read. An attempt to convince others of expertise that one does not have by writing incoherent, incomprehensible stuff as evidence that one is smarter than the reviewer suggests academic fraud.

It is telling that for most uses, a junior-high level of communication is adequate. These forums are a prime example.

I assume that you can write at a college level. I assume you can read at a master's level and possibly a doctoral level. I also assume anyone who can read write at those levels should have the intellect to be able to look at what you say about fascism/Nazism and compare what we see today to what people seen/experienced when fascism was at it's height ( which was a long time ago and America played a major roll in defeating) which is also very well documented. Why does a so-called highly educated person like yourself come across to a so-called lowly educated person like myself as being so clueless and so worthless as far as people go? This a million dollar question that you probably can't answer because it's to disturbing. If you could answer that question, the million would already be in your pocket and you wouldn't be here for me to ask you it.

Despite all the years of posting here and the 4T, I have yet to meet a liberal who measured up to the standards that they supposedly claim to represent. Kiff was a piece of shit. Kiff did her best to hide under Jesus's banner. Kiff learned something from old KIA. KIA taught Kiff that her religious association was meaningless to people like him. She also learned that being a woman granted her no special passes or treatment with people like him either. People like him didn't give a shit( take gender/ race  into account) about race or gender  when judging them  as a person. BTW, a true believer in equality doesn't grant special passes or treatment just because they're a woman or have a certain skin tone. BTW, I've yet to meet a blue woman who measures up to my standards. I've met women who do or are viewed as capable, but I've yet to meet a woman who claims to be a blue, so to speak.

Hello Classic/KIA

From one worthless person to another

First off, Kiff was a wonderful poster and I like her. She is a Christian, and no it doesn't matter unless the subject of religion is being discussed. Her posts on that topic were quite intelligent and I agreed with them. Her notion of what a Christian is, is far superior in my opinion to the notion that many evangelicals and fundamentalists profess. Things have gotten heated in this forum from time to time, and disagreements happen.

I don't know why brower comes across as worthless to you. I don't find him so, but that may just be because brower and I are both of the "blue"persuasion, at least these days, and you are of the "red" persuasion these days. These days, red and blue people have little in common as far as notions of what is valuable and what is worthless are concerned, at least in culture and politics. On more personal levels, I suggest that people of both persuasions and all persuasions have much that is worthwhile in their personal lives, morals and talents.

Brower may be too loose in his current use of the word fascist. But on the other hand, one does not need to be Hitler or an instrument of his rule to be a fascist. Fascist is a much looser term and may refer to tendencies toward authoritarianism and prejudice, and the career of such as Trump and Bannon and those who are their instruments and many of their supporters certainly display much authoritarianism and prejudice. 

On the other hand, red and blue disagree about what freedom and authoritarian mean, and even what prejudice means. This leads into the issue of the views of such red icons as Ayn Rand, whom Brower mentioned above. This issue of trickle-down economics and dog-whistle politics has been gone over and over again here, so no need to rehash it. But it seems a fundamental difference between blue and red, and given the evident failure of trickle-down economics over the years, the Republicans' stubborn adherence to it and their current drive to put it into overdrive again strikes me as religion rather than any interest in facts.