The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(12-10-2019, 11:50 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-09-2019, 09:00 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: No-one wants a civil war, but if states seceded, which side would fight to keep all the states in the union? My guess is that the blue side would say fine, good riddance, go try it your way, while the red side would fight and invade and try to keep blue seceding states in the union. Unconsciously, the red states know they could not go on without the blue states, who supply the financial support disproportionately to them. The red side is also the one that values American empire, and so a smaller USA does not appeal to them. It is clearly the blue side that values the constitution, whereas the red side only values its cult leader who violates it.

Republicans do not want to address any issues. They only want to stoke resentment and fear with the false slogans of keeping immigrants out, keeping citizens armed with military weapons, making abortion illegal and keeping tax money from going to welfare. Your side does not want to address the real issues of poverty and inequality, discrimination and police shootings, gun violence, sky-high national debt caused by war/defense spending, pollution and climate change, and erosion of democracy and human rights. You guys don't care about these issues. You only care about keeping America white, armed, neo-liberal and Christian. It's a losing battle even if you fight it.

If the Quasi Socialists valued the US Constitution as they often claim, the Quasi Socialists/Liberals/Progressives and their global citizens wouldn't always be talking about changing it in ways that either suit or serve their own interests. I hope this is written well enough for everyone to read and understand clearly because it's the truth.

There is nothing wrong with changing the constitution. It is a long process, but it has been done over 25 times. Perfectly legal and necessary. The electoral college and the second amendment are anachronisms. They should be abolished. It may not happen for a long time. But we need Democratic presidents to appoint justices who will interpret the 2nd the way it was for a century. Even without that, gun control and bans on military semi-automatic weapons are perfectly legal according to the justice who ruled that possession of guns was an individual right.

Quote:I don't know about democracy eroding like you claim is happening but I do know that America will be voting again in 2020. I love the way that you and every other Quasi Socialist acts as if they have some sort of right to tell me what I care about and what I think/believe and what/who I am and so forth. Hint, don't ever do that in real life with anyone other than one of your own because they're about the only ones that people like you are free to do so with these days. Republicans don't need to address those issues that you need/want them to address because those issues aren't viewed as important or as prevalent by their base these days. Reds are pretty much content with whatever they've got, their lifestyle and so forth. I'd say the so called American Empire would be content with keeping what it already has right now. How much of your state is currently American owned vs globally/ foreign owned these days?

You don't know democracy is eroding because you don't care that it is. Gerrymandering has become so extreme that it denies the right for the people to choose their representatives. The Citizens United ruling and others by this Republican Court have allowed big money to buy elections and force our representatives to call and email us 24/7 to ask us for money instead of doing their jobs. What good is voting for a congress person who then can't do their job? The Voting rights Act was watered down to let southern states off the hook for erecting barriers to black people for voting, and red and purple states have taken voters off the rolls or erected requirements to keep likely-Democrats from voting. Our president asks foreign governments to interfere in our elections with fake news, hacked emails and bogus investigations. The red states have the power to choose our president because of the out of date electoral college, in which the peoples' choice does not become president, and instead the 2 worst presidents in our history so far were allowed to take office. Yes indeed, our democracy is in severe peril, and these examples probably only scratch the surface. We have a president who would proclaim himself dictator if he could without a moment's hesitation, and he is a cult figure who has the blind loyalty of 45% of deceived Americans like you. I'd say that's a severe threat to democracy. And we have Patriot Acts and NSAs who spy on us with impunity and lock up people without cause in the USA and abroad, and tortures them with impunity. And a president who allows its navy seal soldiers to torture people. I'd say that's a threat to democracy too.