The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-12-2020, 08:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Some conservatives are bigots.  Not all of them, but the Southern Strategy was and remains real.  When LBJ went after the minority vote, it was to be expected that the other party would do the obvious.  It lingers.

Absurdly few conservatives are fascist.  Oh, a few who enjoy confrontation will wear the swastika and use the old salutes.  I am not saying they are into 20th century fascism and the original meaning of the word.  No one is building gas chambers or serious about bringing back openly lynching people.  I am not saying the ‘all conservatives are fascist’ is any more true than ‘all democrats are socialists.’  That is demonizing, in either direction.  I will call out folk who do either, including you.

Some evangelicals organize into political action.  They attempt to enforce their religious values on those that don't share them.  Denying this is kinda futile, an effective lie.  I too will call them like I see it.

It is no more American to believe that America was great in the 1950s and 1960s, during the New Deal through Great Society progressive peak, than it is American to throw oneself into the Nixon through Trump conservative era.  It is not un-American to tax the rich or believe in equality.  To use the word ‘American’ as if it only applied to conservatives is a lie.  Many liberals were born in and live in America and believe in values which are deeply rooted in the USA.

Most liberals are not socialists.  The conservatives use the word when they wish to demonize.  When you have bigots and socialists debating one another, calling each other names, you are not having a serious conversation where both sides are listening to one another.  You are having a name calling contest, with both sides exchanging school yard level insults.

Ever since Nixon was forced out of power, the Republicans have daydreamed about doing the same to a Democrat.  They have not come close.  If you do not believe in big government, you are free to step outside of rule of law so long as you don’t get caught.  A bunch of conservative administrations have got caught.  Watergate.  Iran Contra.  Lying about causes of war.  Violating campaign finance laws.  Refusing to recognize oversight.  Promising to disregard oaths.  There is only lying about their sex life going the other way.  Not the same.

To escape the problematic Democratic habit of obeying the law, many conservatives have stepped into a world of alternate facts.  In short, they lie and don’t care that they are lying.  Their daydreams of locking her up have no basis in reality.  The official investigations have once again cleared Hillary, but will this slow down the chants?  Will it free the members and allies of the conservative administration being investigated, plea bargaining and in some cases being actually locked up?  This is problematic.  It is Republican administrations who indulge in a very small minority of those who act outside the law.

Now as long as you use prejudicial language like ‘American’ and ‘Socialist’ I will tell it like I see it.  You are spouting propaganda which is just not true.  You are deliberately poisoning attempts at real conversation.  More than a few who are die hard into the liberal way of looking at things are doing the same.

That is what I mean by demonizing.

Yes, I am guilty of raining/peeing on the so called liberals parade and disrupting their clueless/mindless conversations and forcing them to have think about other stuff more than usual too, Dude, if I'm using using the term "Socialist" to describe you, your views, your beliefs, worldview, ideology of preference, political affiliation and so forth then you or whoever else has given me more than enough information/ proof for me to use it effectively. Yes, the traditional Democrats are in a bind these days. You see, no free lunches and teaching the value of working for a living are no longer acceptable/viable and no longer can compete or prevail on the Democratic side these days. Like I said, the so called liberal ideal based on a false belief in the government being able to continue to have it both ways ain't going to last/ remain able to be hid by the liberal side for much longer. Hint...I suggest that you learn to view and accept rather criticism, sarcasm and harsh truth for what it is and quit referring to them, viewing them as demonizing. Ok. You don't like broad brushing or so called demonizing as you say. In my opinion, the left has a major issue with big baby/ uppity liberal c*nt/ uppity liberal prick syndrome these days and a hardcore American asshole who has been succeeding with pointing it out and effectively using it against them in front everyone these days.